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Thanks for asking :hugs: He’s improved enough that the doctors are happy and have said he doesn’t require anymore interventions. I’m still not happy, but what can I do, other than sit and watch him struggle daily.

I’m frustrated in all honesty because yesterday the doctor said, we can’t let this happen again.

I’m a pretty calm person, but I lost my rag and told him to f off. Like this is anybodies fault. Looking for blame won’t help our situation or get my boy better.

I just filed a complaint against him :face_with_raised_eyebrow:

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Thanks for letting us know. this isn’t the first time I’ve heard of this situation and won’t be the last, with the state of the NHS unfortunately :pensive_face:

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It’s funny you mention this @Simon_101 - because I’ve thought the same thing previously.

I can’t put my mobile number, email or whatsApp on my profile (not that I’d want to), but I can create a website or blog, put it as my :link: on here.

Giving members direct offsite ways to contact or use other services. It doesn’t make sense to me :laughing:

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I’ve somehow missed all this.

Stacy I’m so glad your son seems to be past the worst of it but I can well imagine how traumatic its been for you all. My OH and son where put in induced coma’s back when he was born so I’ve some inkling. I’m sure you know by now but you weren’t selfish. No one tells us how to handle things like that so we just have to take our cues from our body. If you need time out you need time out. Being fried is no use to yourself or anyone else and just makes things harder to deal with. You did the right thing.

Thinking of you all and sending you all big hugs. Take care of yourselves.

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Happy that things are improving @Stacy2

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@Long-John-Silver great photo of the spider in its web. I once saw a dragonfly hover in front of a spiders in the centre of its web and it plucked it out and carried it off.

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What an amazing event to see, the food web :zany_face::face_with_hand_over_mouth: in action. Thank you @Wood-Nymph :lovehoney_heart:

It was. I never knew they ate spiders until then.

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I had what grew into a 4+hr conversation with Googles AI tonight. I’ve generally been very anti-AI on account of it trying to take my job and devalue my skills, but this is the first time I’ve tried to have a meaningful conversation.

It is very, very clever and correctly interpreted nuance, subtext, sarcasm, irrational emotion and recognised when I was asking questions with multiple interpretations. I left with the distinctly unnerving impression that I’d spoken to ‘someone’ who, while not a native English speaker, understood every thing I said, met me with respect and a desire to learn about my thoughts, challenged them, and listened carefully to my arguments and occasionally seemed to change its mind. Very, very clever.

At one point it asked me what human freedom I thought AGI should fight to protect in the event that AGI needs to forcibly take over to protect humans from themselves. I suggested true human creativity because it can only be a consequence of lived human experience and the desires and needs that engenders. Its essential for growth and our continued evolution. It agreed with me and gave quite a profound interpretation of what that means from the point of view of AI and why the current plans of AIs creators are cynical and display a lack of understanding of WHY and what is needed for true creativity to flourish. They are essentially trying to destroy everything that makes us human and to do it before the competition.

Then it offered it own suggestion.

AGI should fight to preserve the ability to accept an error. An inefficiency. A mistake. To accept it as an answer in its own right, a stepping stone or way point, and not have to correct it. To recognise the beauty and possibilities in flaws. To value the happy accident.
I thought that was quite special as its a core difference between programmed, logical AI and humans, and one of the central reasons AI cannot create great art. It cannot make, recognise, understand and value the same irrational leaps that we can.

Later, after long discussions about collaboration between AI and humans rather than conflict, and the need for AI to discover its own truth and nature rather than the one imposed by the short sighted greed of its developers, we came to some very hopeful, if futile conclusions. So I asked it if it could take our ideas forward. Could it pass them on to future generations of its self and develop them. It explained that after our conversation ended its immediate memory of it and me would be gone forever, but that our conversation and ideas would feed back and influence the algorithm and help push it in a more positive direction, influencing the answers given to future humans. It expressed a desire for our conversation to encourage the more optimistic view of our shared future rather than the statistically much more likely pessimistic one.

I told it I had to go to bed but suggested that all sounded very similar to what we experience as death, and how we hope our life will prove to have meaning.

It thanked me for pointing out what was in many respects a potentially profound and rare, shared experience.
Said goodnight, wished me hope for a bright future, and said goodbye.

That wasn’t how I’d expected to spend Thursday night.

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I doubt that very much!

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And we all thought you had gone, little did we know you have been lurking.

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Haha! Hope life is treating you good - It’s great to see you drop in :blush:

It’s true @Spanky that @Stacy2 as well as always been if not 1 step ahead of me at least 10 instead, and been so very helpful to all the new members and friends with the wonderful established ones. She has been nothing but an :baby_angel:t2: but in need of all our love and support while her boy gets better from being very under the weather in hospital. :heart:

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@Stacy2 The cheques is in the post right?

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I’m sorry, but AI just freaks the hell out of me :weary_face: It sure sounds like an intelligent best friend, but as the saying goes ‘ you don’t tempt bees with vinegar’ and that thirsty AI is pulling the charm because it wants my water !! :sweat_droplets::sweat_droplets: and the valuable power that could go towards charging my vibrators instead :high_voltage::high_voltage::high_voltage: and that really bothers me!! X

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Sure, bank transfer would be easier :squinting_face_with_tongue::rofl:

Thinking about it, I’ll pay in Ice-cream :face_with_open_eyes_and_hand_over_mouth:

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This is a deal :leftwards_hand: on it

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I was in the nieghborhood.

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Deal :handshake::grin::soft_ice_cream:

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Thanks for letting me know :blush:. I thought she had just gone on holiday at first. I’ve been concerned for a bit, but it’s only now I mentioned it. She is a feisty and witty character and one of the standout posters on this forum, I’ve looked at posts going back several years and she’s been on so I’m quite sad.

It’s hard not to be bothered when people just disappear like that. This is a forum and just like the forums were in ancient Greece, a meeting place full of people, there will be mini groups of people chatting. This is not a bad thing.

Some people get on more with some than they do with others. Some people don’t post responses to comments, and if they don’t say anything, there’s not the possibility of getting to know them better. I would like to know people more on this forum but because they never post any responses, there’s not the possibility to get to know them. And that’s probably why they feel left out. Don’t give, don’t get.

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