Pregnant at the age of 11,smoking at the age of 9 & drinking at the age of 10?. I've never ever ever been one to judge any mothers/parents but this has really really riled me. I honestly cannot accept this at all. She may turn out to be a brilliant mother BUT she's still a child! What the heck was her mother doing letting her drink and smoke so young?! As a young mum myself I felt judged a hell of a lot. This girl isn't even a teen yet. It makes me SO scared to think what society my little one will be growing up in.
So with that said..
What's people's views and opinions?
I know this is an 'off topic' subject but LH do say that 'life begins at 18' so I am not sure if this would be allowed to be discussed as it is mentioning under 18's. It is a very sad story though Hun xxx
Morning, I agree i think its too young to be doing any of these things when i was 9 i was happy when the ice cream van showed up never mind booze and smoking! I think in children this young you can only look at parenting i understand children have access to lots more these days but they still need to be taught right from wrong, I think anyone that has life experience can be a good parent and im sure with the right guidance any child can be protected from this :)
Blame the parents. Children for benefits. It's the new lower class that Britain has called the benefit class. They just chuck the kids out so they can drink their cider in peace. Your child will become what you make them.
There's only one person in the whole situation I feel sorry for and that's the unborn child. It's so sad that young girl has to go through such a life changing experience so early!
Pregnant at the age of 11,smoking at the age of 9 & drinking at the age of 10?. I've never ever ever been one to judge any mothers/parents but this has really really riled me. I honestly cannot accept this at all. She may turn out to be a brilliant mother BUT she's still a child! What the heck was her mother doing letting her drink and smoke so young?! As a young mum myself I felt judged a hell of a lot. This girl isn't even a teen yet. It makes me SO scared to think what society my little one will be growing up in.
So with that said..
What's people's views and opinions?
Hey Xx-katie
Thanks for bringing this topic up - it is definitely one for discussion!
I have slightly edited your original post to remove your reference to your own age of becoming pregnant, just so it falls within our rules of 'life begins at 18' - I hope you don't mind.
As for the topic, please continue to discuss, just be aware when referencing to personal experience :)
I dont think you can always blame the parents although there are those out there I beleive be undeserving of the title. The fact is that schools and the modern day school culture puts alot of pressure on our kids nowadays and kids almost never share any of this with there parents.
There was another report today about sexual abuse to kids by kids in almost every street in the UK.
I only hope that my kids have enough self respect to accept this kind pressure and will talk to us. I certainly have always tried to teach them to respect themselfs first.
I saw today's report about the abuse by kids,it seems like today's society are ruled by drink drugs & abuse. It's scary to think what our children are being brought up around.
When I think back to being 9 - 11, my parents would have strung me up if they'd caught me smoking or drinking. Sex was certainly not on my mind then either. Poor kid, that's no age to become a mother. I'm afraid I do blame the parents. Kids can't bring themselves up, they need guidance.
Its scary that they are beleiving that this behaviour is the norm.
I genuinly feel schools and parents need to do more.
Sex education is isnt only the physicle act or internal diagrams it should also be about self respect, emotional well being and more importantly that porn is not a real example of how sex has to be.
As a nation the sweep it under the carpet and pretend it isnt happening attitude is not working. Its time to be honest with kids and open up comunication lines for them.
At the age of 11, having sex was something that never ever crossed my mind.
I was too busy riding a bike or running around playing in the woods and building secret bases!
And if I was ever caught with a cigarette or alcohol, I would have received a hiding that would have prevented me from sitting down for a month!
This all really falls down to a lack of education and discipline. Parents are responsible for teaching their children about the dangers of drinking, smoking and under-age sex.
I really have no words to express how sad this whole thing makes me. Childhood is becoming all to fast and fleeting. It really is a sad state of affairs, and parents of these children need to realise that it won't just end there - they have a responsibilty to protect their children. Who lets an 11 year old go out binge drinking and smoking? I personally feel that this should be classified as neglect and abuse and the parents of these very young children should also be punished and made to realise that their half-assed parenting is not acceptable.
Whilst I understand what you are saying, I would have to respectfully disagree.
There may be a large number of children today that are 'mature' enough to 'look after themselves' but there is also a large number who cannot. Normalising this sort of behaviour leave those who are most vulnerable at the mercy of people who will use that to take advantage of them.
By accepting that under-age children are going to get pregnant and have sex, makes it sound like we are paving the way for acceptance of peadophilia. Ok, that is very extreme, but that is essentially what it is.
Parents need to be educating their children, there is no ifs or buts about it. You don't need to wrap them up in cotton wool and shield them from all the bad things in life, but there has to be a point where you have to draw a line.
Ork I understand the point you're making but surely you need to understand that these are children we're talking about. 11 year olds aren't allowed to have a job, why would they be responsible enough to have a child?! There is a reason all these guidlines are in place, I'm not saying parents should control their children and forbid them from being their own person. But come on, an 11 year old drinking alcohol and having sex? She's not going to develop properly.
There is a reason the legal drinking age is 18 - because that's the average age people stop delevoping and growing. Alcohol kills off cells, think about the damage those children are doing to their bodies. That girls hips probably haven't even developed properly yet she's already pregnant. Okay, technically her body is supposedly ready otherwise she wouldn't have gotten pregnant but I don't think that kind of stress is going to do her any good. And being this young she will probably keep smoking throughout her pregnancy. I feel sorry for her child. But then again I don't know her - I'm judging by the 11 year olds I know now and how my friends and I used to be at that age - and there is no way they'd be ready to be a parent. She hasn't experience enough to be able to bring a child up. How is she going to support her child when she can't have a job?
It just saddens me how this generation is relying and focusing on all the wrong things. Sex and alcohol rule everything.
Ork I understand the point you're making but surely you need to understand that these are children we're talking about. 11 year olds aren't allowed to have a job, why would they be responsible enough to have a child?! There is a reason all these guidlines are in place, I'm not saying parents should control their children and forbid them from being their own person. But come on, an 11 year old drinking alcohol and having sex? She's not going to develop properly.
There is a reason the legal drinking age is 18 - because that's the average age people stop delevoping and growing. Alcohol kills off cells, think about the damage those children are doing to their bodies. That girls hips probably haven't even developed properly yet she's already pregnant. Okay, technically her body is supposedly ready otherwise she wouldn't have gotten pregnant but I don't think that kind of stress is going to do her any good. And being this young she will probably keep smoking throughout her pregnancy. I feel sorry for her child. But then again I don't know her - I'm judging by the 11 year olds I know now and how my friends and I used to be at that age - and there is no way they'd be ready to be a parent. She hasn't experience enough to be able to bring a child up. How is she going to support her child when she can't have a job?
It just saddens me how this generation is relying and focusing on all the wrong things. Sex and alcohol rule everything.
At the age of 11, having sex was something that never ever crossed my mind.
I was too busy riding a bike or running around playing in the woods and building secret bases!
And if I was ever caught with a cigarette or alcohol, I would have received a hiding that would have prevented me from sitting down for a month!
This all really falls down to a lack of education and discipline. Parents are responsible for teaching their children about the dangers of drinking, smoking and under-age sex.
I really have no words to express how sad this whole thing makes me. Childhood is becoming all to fast and fleeting. It really is a sad state of affairs, and parents of these children need to realise that it won't just end there - they have a responsibilty to protect their children. Who lets an 11 year old go out binge drinking and smoking? I personally feel that this should be classified as neglect and abuse and the parents of these very young children should also be punished and made to realise that their half-assed parenting is not acceptable.
PinkPolkaDot wrote:
Ork I understand the point you're making but surely you need to understand that these are children we're talking about. 11 year olds aren't allowed to have a job, why would they be responsible enough to have a child?! There is a reason all these guidlines are in place, I'm not saying parents should control their children and forbid them from being their own person. But come on, an 11 year old drinking alcohol and having sex? She's not going to develop properly.
There is a reason the legal drinking age is 18 - because that's the average age people stop delevoping and growing. Alcohol kills off cells, think about the damage those children are doing to their bodies. That girls hips probably haven't even developed properly yet she's already pregnant. Okay, technically her body is supposedly ready otherwise she wouldn't have gotten pregnant but I don't think that kind of stress is going to do her any good. And being this young she will probably keep smoking throughout her pregnancy. I feel sorry for her child. But then again I don't know her - I'm judging by the 11 year olds I know now and how my friends and I used to be at that age - and there is no way they'd be ready to be a parent. She hasn't experience enough to be able to bring a child up. How is she going to support her child when she can't have a job?
It just saddens me how this generation is relying and focusing on all the wrong things. Sex and alcohol rule everything.
David is 100% right. There is something called personal responsibility or in the case of this child, parental responsibility. These 'parents' have failed miserably and here is the end product.
Difficult subject. Don't have kids myself but my only sister has 3 - all under 10 years of age. I have no worries for them at all, none at all - because their parents look after them and the live in a loving home.
However, not everyone is in this situation. And it is sad... but true
On the one hand PPD and David are completely right, but on the other hand, this is from The Daily Mail, the most vile publication available, and, therefore, I'm not trusting that anything in the article is true. The side column of articles down the website is a highlight of what's wrong with this country.
I think this is something where we agree to disagree.
Having children working, having sex and drinking and doing drugs is not something I would ever agree with, regardless if that is how society is supposed to be today.