Dipping a toe into bi

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Hi all, it’s been quite a while since we’ve been here. We have an experience we want to share, for some guidance

We are and have been swingers for a good while now, and have had numerous encounters together, mainly with other couples, single females and in clubs. Up until recently, it was always together, same room fun.

At the turn of the year, Mrs Belle went to visit her home city, and while she was there she looked up all her friends, as she does whenever we visit. However this time she was on her own, Mr Belle had to stay at home and work.

One night she met up with a friend, who actually used to be Mrs Belles boyfriend way in the past. Both love rock n roll so they organised a meet at a bar that has a live band. Once the band had finished, they sat in a corner of the bar to chat and catch up. Mrs Belle inadvertently let slip about knowledge of a particular bar that was known to be a swingers hangout, at which point the friend’s antennae went up. He started asking more and more direct questions, and as Mrs Bell by this time had enjoyed a gin and tonic, she started to tell him about our exploits. In detail. As she told him more and more, it wasn’t just the friend’s antennae that was up, and he started to tell her that he had repeatedly fantasised about her, including Mrs Belle and his ex-partner together.

By this time both of them were really really turned on, and they left and retreated to the apartment, and had sex.

The next morning Mrs Belle was a bit remorseful as she had never had sex with another guy without Mr Belle present since they had met. However she did not want to hide anything, so she phoned Mr Belle, and explained what had happened. She was worried that Mr Belle would not like it, but she needn’t have worried at all. Instead of complaining or chiding, Mr Belle wanted to know all the details, as it was turning him on to hear about it.

A few weeks later, they met again, this time with a bit more intention, and it led to another bit of fun for them. Mrs Belle was straight on the phone the next morning to give Mr Belle a blow by blow account.

Yet another few weeks later Mr Belle was able to join Mrs Belle on a short holiday. The friend invited us both to his house for a barbecue; on his roof he has a terrace with a barbecue area and a little plunge pool, so he advised us to bring our swimwear. We imagined what would happen, and so it did - after a while the swimwear was off and the three of us were having fun together, which was probably quite entertaining for the builders working on the high rise a short distance away.

So in a short time we had gone from Mrs Belle never swinging on her own to then have our first MFM encounter. We had not done so before due to the number of times that the other male would be super pushy when we were enquiring, but this happened a lot more naturally and was very enjoyable for us both. Mrs Belle always loves being attended to at both ends, plus the friend gave her a long oral session that drove her wild. Mr Belle was both an active participant, but also really got off on seeing Mrs Belle being pleasured.

Mr Belle returned home, leaving Mrs Belle to continue. The friend and her connected again a month or two later, after seeming to have lost interest in us. This time they met in a similar fashion to the first time, with apparently no prior intentions. However as the evening wore on the topic of the threesome came up, and it seemed to revitalise the energy.

Mrs Belle and the friend ended up back at the flat, and were soon starting to play - and this is where we will invite comments.

Mr Belle was not present, but the friend expressed a desire that he was. When pressed he confessed to have wanted to share Mr Belles dick with Mrs Belle - he wanted to suck and lick Mr Belle, and mentioned that when we had had the threesome, he had seen Mrs Belle doing so and wanted to join her and suck it with her then.

A little later, during sex he told her that he wanted Mrs Belle to penetrate him using a strap on in the same way Mrs Belle does to Mr Belle. Mrs Belle asked him to imagine her doing so, but he then said that he wanted even more for Mr Belle to penetrate him while he was penetrating Mrs Belle. When Mrs Belle repeated this to him, and told him to imagine it happening right there and then, he orgasmed immediately and strongly.

Neither Mr nor Mrs Belle ever imagined that the friend was even slightly bi or even bi-curious in all the time we have known him. In fact we would have vehemently denied the possibility. The next day though, he asked Mrs Belle to forget everything he said. He also didn’t want Mrs Belle to tell Mr Belle, despite the fact that Mrs Belle made a condition of their meeting that she would tell Mr Belle 100% of everything - but he didn’t insist…

He repeated the comments about wanting Mr Belle’s dick the very next time he and Mrs Belle had sex. Mrs Belle was prepared with a vibrator that she inserted in him, plus using three fingers to penetrate him - all of which he enjoyed and encouraged, using the fantasy that Mr Belle was doing the penetrating. Again though, the next day he wanted Mrs Belle to forget that he had ever mentioned it.

So we are both home together now, and our sex talk often strays to our new threesome FB. The problem is we are unsure as to approach this. Our first instinct is to let time and nature take its course, but we also want to encourage him. He clearly has a bit of an internal conflict, as he displays no sign outwardly of the acts he seems to get off on. We wonder if he is embarrassed by his (hidden) desires.

We want to tell him that there’s nothing wrong with anything he seems to want but are scared that if we broach it, he will react poorly.

So, what should we do?

Belles

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Go with the flow of the evening … get mrs belle to guide the friend to pleasure you … see where it goes

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Fiddly subject to cross with someone who is conflicted inside on the matter… I’d just go with it also and when he asks for such things to not make anything of it that could have him feel guilty or awkward. He’ll hopefully process in his own time and come to terms with what he’s looking to explore.

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Perhaps for Mr & Mrs Belle’s FB, it’s just a really wonderful fantasy that he indulges, and talking about it with Mrs Belle is just part of enjoying
that fantasy while in a heightened / aroused state.
The thing about fantasies, is that they can be just exactly as you want them to be, without reality getting in the way.
I’m guessing that Mr FB knows that to some point, which may be why, outside the heat of the
moment, wants to retract from it.

If I’m honest, I’ve had pretty much the same fantasy long term, but I know it’s just that.
There is no going there in reality for numerous reasons, and for me that’s o.k.

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Thanks to all the respondents, we enjoyed and appreciated the thoughtful replies

Fantasy vs reality is something we discussed; both of us do have the odd ‘out-of-left-field’ fantasies we know will stay in the realm of imagination. That’s why our first instinct was to just let time take its course.

Something that was not discussed in our original post is that this is the first time Mr Belle has had to consider the real possibility of bi action. Mrs Belle has been active with other women many times, but in all our encounters Mr Belle has not performed acts on other men. There are reasons for that, as FMF swinging obviously does not have another man present, and our experience swinging with couples has up to now never included another couple with a bi male. As for clubs, now we think about it we don’t ever remember seeing bi males at any of them; perhaps there were but we simply weren’t looking for it.

We have discussed Mr Belle doing things before, but in a rather abstract way. This new situation forced us to look at it a bit more closely, and our conclusion is that we would probably be fine with it - with the rider that you never really know until you try. It was the same with all our experiences in swinging, we try things and find out what we enjoy and what we don’t. If we don’t enjoy something we will not do it again, but that doesn’t stop them from being used to titillate during playtimes. A nod towards the ‘stays in fantasy’ concept.

So we have some thoughts on how to move forwards. Mrs Belle has to return in a few weeks time to attend to some business, and we are pretty certain that our friend will present himself for action again.

If they do meet for some play, once both are excited and in the mood, but before any physical action, Mrs Belle will ask for clarification on the subject. It will be between them, and them only, and she will explore it verbally with him to see what he really wants. Mrs Belle will make it clear that whatever he chooses is fine, and that it stays their secret. If all he wants is fantasy, that’s where it will stay.

Maybe he wants a middle ground - some anal play but only Mrs Belle performing the penetration. He clearly enjoyed that before.

If the choice is that he truly wants some more physical contact, Mrs Belle will explore that with him to ascertain boundaries and limits to prevent things turning sour. Quite clearly a progressive course is going to be better than going gung-ho, but we want to balance that with not leaving either party disappointed with the potential encounter. Unfortunately with current commitments it’s unlikely to be any time soon, but will at least give us some fantasy material of our own.

And on that point, we both have realised just how much this situation has excited us. It is a new shiny thing in our sex-talk repertoire, which was pretty extensive to begin with. For us this is at least as much fun as the actual sex. We find ourselves many times now in a bar, or maybe in a car or some other semi-public place where we can chat, discussing this and scenarios. Even if he does indeed wish for his desires to remain fantasy, we still have a lot of pleasurable scenes to play out.

Mrs Belle talks about taking him to a sex shop and getting him to choose toys, partly as a tease but also to see how he leans. We discuss who would do what to who. Would Mr Belle want our friend to penetrate him, or would Mr Belle like to fellate the friend? Mrs Belle would certainly want to peg both, and then have Mr Belle and the friend take turns penetrating her while she sucks the other off. Mrs Belle definitely wants DP.

We want all three to meet in a bar with Mrs Belle in a short skirt with either some fishnet panties or maybe commando, and make sure it was being flaunted. We have remote Bluetooth toys like the Lush, Ferri etc, which can all be commanded by others - Mrs Belle would ask both men to insert them and she would have both dancing in the seats, knowing that they can’t do anything until later. We could go on…

So if after all that he does not want play out his full fantasy we still have enough to keep us happy. Wish us luck! Oh, and if you think of any suitably sexy scenarios that we could do in public places like bars, let us know!

Belles

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@Belle_djour I just wanted to say that I admire the way you are going about this. From what you’ve written, it seems very thoughtful & considered. Well done Belles.

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You treat people how you wish to be treated - with respect

Belles

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Mrs Belle is on her way on a visit home, and is hoping to meet up with our Friend on Friday. We have chatted about this in advance, and Mrs Belle has a plan, somewhere along the lines of the previous posts. Mr Belle can’t be there in person, but the expectation is that we can all still have some fun.

Hopefully we can report back on Saturday

Belles

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Mrs H here. Looking forward to hear how things turn out. Mr H and I have had a few mmf threesomes and they have been great but both Mr H and our other friend(s) were really keen to be with another man.

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Mrs Belle met up with our friend again yesterday.

Mr and Mrs Belle chatted beforehand over Google Meet to discuss how to handle the encounter, what to do and other details - Mr Belle was as excited by all of this as Mrs Belle despite not being present. It was decided she’d put on a nice one piece dress that zips all the way up the front, with the hem line being mid thigh so that it would be sexy but not slutty. Underneath she put on a pair of revealing fine mesh panties. The dress, panties, some modest heels and some blood red lipstick was all she chose to wear.

They met at a popular bar near the center in the late afternoon. While it has a nice outdoor area, they chose to sit inside in a booth at the back where they could chat freely. Mrs Belle waited until they’d had a couple of drinks and were relaxed before suggesting having some fun. The friend, predictably, readily agreed.

From there the conversation became far more erotic, both getting excited. They corner booth gave them privacy from the rest of the bar, and they took advantage of that, along with the relatively short dress. Both were using their hands on each other under the table, stoking the already high sexual tension.

Mrs Belle used this point to ask the $64 Million question - did he really mean it about wanting to suck Mr Belles dick, and did he really want to be anally penetrated by Mr Belle?

Well, the answer was a definite maybe! He definitely fantasises about it, it’s a recurring thought for him… but he doesn’t know if he would actually do it and would only know for sure in a ‘hot’ situation when all three were together. So we are none the wiser, and will have to be patient.

Mrs Belle took the opportunity to suggest that they go to a sex shop that was nearby, a good one with loads of stock. The friend agreed, so soon they were browsing the store, although the friend seemed a little embarrassed at being there. Despite this he picked out a strap-on set for Mrs Belle, though once chosen he wanted to get out of there as soon as possible. Mrs Belle is convinced that he was embarrassed that the female cashier had seen what he had chosen.

By this time it was early evening so they went back to the apartment. Mrs Belle called Mr Belle on Google meet, and turned on the video. Once the call was up and running, the phone was put in a holder in a big ring light Mrs Belle bought for doing makeup, and then they live streamed their fun and put on a show for Mr Belle.

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Were are still unsure as to whether the friend really does want actual sexual contact with another man - but from the fact that he was happy that another man was watching him be pegged we can assume that it’s not a complete fantasy. We believe he is still a bit conflicted internally, and from what Mrs Belle gathers his friends are rather machistic and intolerant. Maybe that influences him.

So, we wait, it looks like we will only ever know when all three are in the same room.

Belles

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