Have any of our Forum members practiced the ancient Arabic art of “imsák” for controlling the male climax?

Have any of our Forum members practiced the ancient Arabic art of “imsák” for controlling the male climax?

I have just completed reading about the sexual prowess of Prince Aly Khan, legendary playboy and son of the Aga Khan.

As a young man he had gone (as did his father, the Aga Khan, had before him) to a doctor in Cairo, with whom he had spent six weeks studying the ancient Arabic art of imsák - the control of his muscles so that he did not reach a climax.

The ancient Arabic art of imsák was said to be responsible for Aly’s extraordinary sexual prowess.

“He liked the effect it had on women,” one friend claimed. “He liked to get them out of control while he remained in control—the master of the situation.”

It was said that Aly also dipped his fingertips in rosewater to prolong his lovemaking.

He regularly boasted that, “I never shoot until I see the whites of their eyes.”

One of Aly’s lovers claimed that he was able to hold an erection for hours.

I’m curious as to what happens during the six weeks’ practice that results in “being able to hold an erection for hours”.

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Is this an early urban myth?? :smirk::stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye::thinking:

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I have no experience with Imsaak, but when I looked it up, it sounds very similar to what I’ve practiced life long, just the Chinese version instead. Sexual Taoism is basically from what I can tell the roughly 5,000 year old Chinese version of Imsaak.

Delayed male gratification and the methodologies and muscular practices appear very similar. The principle component of Sexual Taoism is that the delayed male gratification leads to more female sexual pleasure.

Drinking that In the ancient form, was the essence of the Fountain of Youth, and they got grossly pervy about it, is all I can say. The disgusting things that were a part of that (Sexual Taoism Religion), are not a part of the practice in todays society. I do not participate in Pedophilia, nor have I ever, like they did 5,000 years ago. I’ve studied it life long, but since life starts at 18 on this forum, let’s just say I started practicing it at…”that age, with others who also would not classify as Pedophilic actions,” just so there’s no confusion nor misunderstanding.

Yes, it works, with regard to muscle training and delay of male orgasm. Without being overly gratuitous I’ve practiced it for so long it actually takes more effort for me to “release,” than it does to “retain,” my own male gratification. Though perhaps releasing and retention are not the right words to use as it’s easily accomplished to have an orgasm as a male without ejaculation, (once you have spent the time learning how to do so anyway.) That part is not as easy to learn for some as it is for others, from my understanding, but every (born as) male is capable of attaining it.

I have to make a conscious decision to “release,” my own gratification. This is true of all forms of sexual pleasure other than with prostate and or anal stimulation, though I still have control over the retention of my erection. Those I’m relatively brand new to (in the last 2 years or so here and there). Those happen when she pegs me with or without my conscious decision to let it happen, is all I can say without on overly gratuitous and inappropriate level of detail.

If you’re new to the studying of the male orgasm and the difference between orgasm, ejaculation, dry ejaculation, multiple male orgasms and all the rest of that path of study will lead you down, (either Imsaak or Sexual Taoism), well. The partners in your life will thank you is all I can say from first hand experience.

This is what I believe started my BDSM control fetish, that has been there as long as I can remember. From what I read of Imsaak it’s similar enough to Sexual Taoism that I feel confident stating both principles rely on your own understanding of your body to control the full “wet ejaculation,” that triggers the refractory period and or causes a loss of erection. (It is possible in my experience, to learn how to control the amount of “wet ejaculate” you emit, and not “empty the tank,” which causes a loss of erection.)

Yes, it’s possible. Yes, it’s real. Yes, the first time you do it you won’t believe it. Neither will your partners if you learn that level of control. And yes, you can expect to be called various things as a result, with reference to sexual prowess in my experience. (Yes, this sounds braggadocios, but it’s simply true).

Best wishes on your journey of self discovery, that will benefit every other partner you have as well as yourself. It you have any future questions, I can elaborate on things that helped me down this path. Because it is “the road less travelled,” and takes a lot of practice and self-discipline. Some parts are easier learned alone before experiencing with a partner, and so forth. It’s well worth it though. For every one involved.

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Yes. It starts there. That’s a great beginning point as a short response.

It gets much deeper when you start learning how to “self-ruin,” and other such concepts in todays societal vernacular.

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@Himeros1

I wanted to say thank you for your question actually. Because I’ve never heard of Imsaak until your post. I’m going to look into it a lot more in-depth has a result.

Coming from ST, I can offer you a word of advice I’m going to follow with regard to my journey into Imsaak. A lot of these principles are probably broken apart into various forms of today’s vernacular.

Reading a book on it rather than studying online (only), helps. I started studying ST before…well. Let’s say before Google, Reddit, PornHub etc in book format.

This really helped me learn the principle from the practitioners, rather than from some random person who may or may not be telling the truth. Like many could reasonably believe I may or may not be reading this as an example.

Don’t discount those information sources though once you’re able to distinguish clear B.S. from potential helpful advice. I learned a lot from every where. Including Ron Jeremy, about the importance of grapefruit juice that affected my real life when placed on a Central Nervous Suppressant as an example. Long before BioPerine was synthesized and available in supplements.

Sometimes you’ll be surprised where things you learn affect areas of your life you never had any idea they would is all I can say. Lol

I hate autocorrect for unnecessary edits when trying to post quickly, sigh.

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@Himeros1 I can find virtually no information on Imsaak (other than the an Arabic definition of withholding and Ramadan entries). Some random, (this is delusional/non contextual/lack of knowledge references), with regard to retro ejaculations type comments.

Other than that it was exceptionally well guarded it seems (taught at a Harem essentially) and related to Asian Sexual Studies in the Aly Khan reference.

Can I ask where you heard about it/cite your source type of thing? I’m more interested in finding a book about it than anything else and am wondering if you found a good one, or just happened upon it as a reference to the general PlayBoy/Womanizer nature of Aly Khan?

Either way, I still stand by my statements with regard to the similarities (from the little I could find), to Sexual Taoism and their effectiveness, and their realism rather than fictional nature.

I can hold an erection for an extremely long time. If Mrs. Val and I have a 2+ hour session I won’t go soft the entire time and never use a ring or a stimulant. I get no disfunction or have any issues with performance.

Now, if I could go hours without ejaculating, that would be something!

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@valbowski77 The trick for me was to learn how to both dry ejaculate and “partial wet ejaculate - ruin,” while having sex without losing an erection inside someone; that took me the longest to master by far. Particularly the partial ruin while inside someone aspect.

I found it was easiest to learn these by myself first as the partners movement at the exact “wrong/right” second, (depending on point of view) can bring both of those experiences to an entire close rather quickly. It takes an understanding partner to pause when you need to pause with no movement to experience that with someone else when you’re first dabbling in those waters in my experience. But…the practice pays off. Once you have learned how to do this, which does take a lot of time and effort…well.

Two hours and a whole lot longer are a whole lot more fun is all I can say. The thing I focus on is making sure the recipient isn’t bored. Sometimes taking forever to lose an erection doesn’t always equate to amazing sex due to various factors like if the chemistry isn’t there, they are in pain, the timing etc.

Even I’ve been bored and wanting it just to be over with more times than I care to recount while “she” (whoever from my past), was having the time of their life and making it unmistakably obvious. I’ve been doing this since my early 20’s though, and am about to turn 40 this year. “This,” being…a willing individual for my partner’s satisfaction more than my own and the various forms of ejaculate/no ejaculate to keep an erection for absurdly long times/and or “cunnilingual actions,” that I’m not even going to bother stating here since most would likely blow it off as braggadocio.

It wasn’t until I met my current GF that I met anyone with as strong a desire to please as myself, who was my equal in that department. That I learned to explore myself and my interests and “lay back and relax metaphorically,” at her insistence where I realized there was a whole lot more to sex than just being a pleaser that existed as my role in sex.

Regardless of the fetishistic levels of enjoyment I get from doing that to/for/with women.

@Himeros1 I’m glad to hear you’re back on the path of Taoism with regard to sexual exploitation. They’re a lot of books out there that will benefit you down this road. And I’m todays terminology, if you look up edging/ruining/partial ruining practices (and videos), you’re pretty much receiving the modernized version of Sexual Taoism’s proof. It’s just the practice that isn’t being explained.

From the very secretive nature of Imsaak all I’ve really been able to determine is that is started with an exploration of Fang’s oriental sexual practices (basically Sexual Taoism’s roots), and was taught to a very select (wealthy/privileged) clientele through a Harems instruction somewhere in the Middle East. I’ll admit I haven’t had that much time to look too deeply into it due to real life complications and some rather disturbing medical testing results Ms.Anony has received recently, I’ve been tied up researching ANA blood test results and the possible implications they will have on her life if I’m reading them correctly before we get her in to see a specialist.

When I have more time I’ll look into it in book form and see what I can dredge up, if anything. Thanks again for bringing this post to our attention, I’m curious to see if there is anything in Imsaak non supplemental/medicinal related that is different than Taoism.

Also. Like @valbowski77 i wouldn’t and don’t use any thing (stimulant/medicinal wise)and you don’t have to to achieve those results. It’s just practice and self mastery.

I would say even if there was something that has been proven to help with this process it would be highly individual with regard to contraindications due to personal medical health history that I would be most wary of. Especially with the prevalence of prescription medications that didn’t exist 5,000 years ago. As in, I would be hesitant to take anything to help achieve those “results,” as you can do it without them and it’s most likely safer to do so without them (categorically speaking).

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I think the usefulness of it is going to depend on your core strength. Because you’re going to get tired of thrusting for hours and your muscles will get worn out.

My husband doesn’t need imsak because he’s able to have multiple orgasms with practically no refractory period. He does, however, wear out after a while.

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I used in between class sessions at my on Campus apartment for a few semesters by myself to correctly learn the thresholds.
And of course tried (and mostly failed at), doing it a lot with random college hookups.

With a consistent partner who’s in tune with you and or knows and participates in what you’re trying to master, who understands the slightest movement can push you over the edge brink though…is where i really learned to master that. With her help.

After that (and a lot of it), I’ve been able to do it with every random woman since. Sometimes with Ms.Anony though, she can break me when I’m trying to hold it some 20ish years later. She knows what she’s doing too it you get my drift. :wink:

And as @awkward-yet-sweet rightly mentions core strength is invaluable. I’ve until recently anyway always had an 8 pack for a reason. Ms.Anony’s cooking has put a bit of a “dent” over it though. It’s still there rock solid just…a little obscured, which I need to correct. Cajun Cooking though. Heh. Sigh.

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Not consciously studied, but as a male I had a gentleman friend about ten years ago whilst working in London who I used to enjoy watching porn films and masturbating with. For reasons I won’t go into we were limited to two hour visits during which period we warmed up by sort of giving a striptease to each other, so very erotic, and when we came there was lots of semen. On one occasion it was clear after lots of talking while the action was going on on the screen that we were going to have some non-penetrative contact - as we got to grips with each other I could feel myself starting to cum, with a pea-sized blob of cum coming out - but managed to stop myself - I don’t know how. My partner then finished, and I knew I could probably cum again - so rubbed myself and brought myself off fully, just about 30 seconds after the first one. It was the most shattering orgasm i’ve ever had, and only in the hours after I realised that I’d actually had a double orgasm for the only time in my life. So, yes, I think I have experienced the technique and what happens after it!

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