I bought a rose about a month or so ago, and it was certainly a trial and error at first. The first 2 times I used it, it was uncomfortable. But I believe in trying things out several times before I make my own judgement. It was more of a user error with it being a completely different type of toy. I do have a ton of different toys, but a suction one was a new one. My third try was so much better. I found my groove with it, but it still takes some adjusting to get it on the right spot. I thoroughly still enjoy it though. I’m open to trying more like these toys in the future.