Oh - No Fantasies - Ideas?

Hi

My wife always says she has No Fantasies, and thus isnt really interested in having any.

Our sex lives since we’ve been together, has varied from plain old vanilla to sex clubs (not swinging), a tiny bit of girl on girl, voyeur, exhibitionism (we’ve done lots with an audience, naturism and a good range of kinks in)/out of the bedroom.
I’ve driven most of this, she’s gone along, but enjoys it once she gets going, she’ll tell me if not and we stop.

So, it’s not like she’s overly shy in that dept. She doesn’t have a imaginative mind or is embarrassed to say.

We’re currently working on improving our day to day intimacy and sex, quality time together and I thought it’d be nice to introduce/encourage her to try and have a fantasy, doesn’t have to be fulfilled, or could be, doesn’t matter.

How would you guys start the ball rolling with this, bearing in mind she’s a little apprehensive about this subject.

Obviously I don’t want to force her, but with most things, she’ll block, but once turned on a little she’ll usually enjoy it.

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As with most things, everyone is different and it may be two factors:

They are embarrassed or worried what you may think of them

They actually don’t focus on sex as a large part of their persona so fantasies are the last thing on their mind

The best thing to do is focus on just what someone enjoys in the bedroom. I always look at it like taking someone to an all you can eat buffet. No one goes and focuses on one particular dish, you just go and enjoy yourself with a variety of stuff.

Also don’t get too hung up on trying to find out what someone likes as this can become almost a nag and push the person away. Judging by what you have said about attending sex clubs etc, you both sound like you have a very open and decent sex life and it’s far more than most couples. Some people will do missionary 5 times a year and that suits them, others will go out and get into an orgy every week. But the important part is you both are satisfied and both feel connected.

having zero fantasies is far more common than you think, it can be when someone is overwhelmed too. So just go with the flow, get some new toys. Dabble in a bit of kink like bdsm/sploshing etc. and have fun, who know what will happen and your partner may get some ideas going forward and be a bit more vocal. But maybe they are just quite happy to go with things and let you lead which is 100% normal and totally fine.

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Based on what your saying It might be good to get out of the fast lane for a moment. If life is busy and her head is constantly thinking of other things such as work etc then it will drown out any ideas she may have.

So, the best option would be to get away and have a week or something break. Not based on sex, but a blank canvas away from every stress you can possibly get away from. That way she can clear her mind and the thoughts might start coming in. As I said previously, I do think some people are just not wired into a sexual mindset. It’s all down to personality and preference, the important part is you sound like you have a happy and healthy sex life.

The only other thing you can do is look at movies which might give some inspiration or get her a book if she enjoys reading. Plenty of movies out there (fifty shades, 365 days, millers girl etc) some are not just based on sex, but have a sultry and seductive tone which might spark a few thoughts and feelings. Weirdly Iv found if you don’t push for something then it kind of happens naturally, similar to when someone says “if you look for a partner you won’t find them” it’s always when you least expect something to happen.

Please take this as a pleasant response, but the weekend away thing is really barking up the wrong tree.
We get away loads, and have some great hols lined up and events.
Returning from such hols makes zero difference to the topic, we get away loads as I say.

I know my wife extremely well, been together 18 years, we’ve done things other couples only dream about, reading the fantasy topic on here, and we’ve done alot of what people fantasise about!

I don’t think she’s incapable of having fantasies, I think she just not put much energy into the topic, having been in a loveless marriage for 20+ years.

She read 50 shades and we possibly had the best holiday sex we’ve ever had, while she was reading it.

The purpose of this post was to get different thoughts on how to subtly approach and introduce the topic, rather than just my views

I was going to suggest reading blogs, and watching mild porn, which we may.

The brain is a powerful sex organ, just think she needs a little push to get her started, if not then no worries, we tried and no harm done

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Why does she need to have a fantasy? For you, is this about wanting her to take more initiative or something else? You say you are working on day to day intimacy and sex, but should be a together thing, not her going off and figuring out some fantasies to tell you about.

Not everyone fantasises. Which is kind of why I asked the question at the start of my reply. If you want her to make some suggestions for things you can do, frame it like that. Or give her a starting point. Buy a game or something that gives suggestions for what to do. If you find it too tame, spend the time together amending it. Or have a look if there are any sex classes or talks that you could both go to. Quite a few are still online but in person classes are popping back up.

Otherwise, I think you answered your own question. If she enjoyed reading 50 Shades, do a google search as there will be tons of recommendations for books. Some will go further into bdsm than you want to go, so it’s worth having a proper search and not just buying the first few choices.

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I would say if reading 50 shades helped, then perhaps other books might be the way to go. I read a series of Nancy Friday books a few years ago and they got me very :fire: and horny - I’m considering re-reading them. Sylvia Day Crossfire x 5 books also had a similar impact.

Books have certainly helped broaden my horizons and helped me feel more confident sexually.

Thank you

I’ll definitely look at the books mentioned

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Shoe on the other foot here, but I have shared fantasies in the past and had their reception go wrong, so, she may be closed off to sharing fantasies, as others have said, because she fears judgement. You may believe you won’t judge her but, there could be something that you weren’t expecting, and then what? It reinforces her fear. My husband too loves my fantasies, but there are things he doesn’t (and doesn’t need to) know because I know he would judge me for them. It’s not about you, it’s about her.

Take the pressure off. She clearly loves you and she’s clearly having plenty of fun with you and that’s the most important part.

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My wife is rather reserved and does not openly discuss sex too much . She is disabled and is on many medications so she can not drink . Many years ago , we went to a family ( cousins ) get together and she went off all her meds to be able to drink . She got in a pretty happy place , and that was the night I discovered she had been wanting to do anal on me . Shortly there after we started pegging me . Another cheap and fun thing that seemed to warm her up was the different card games available here at LH . Kinky Confessions along with several others . You just never know what might get someone’s imagination going . As a solo sexual person about 95% of the time , do not dwell on it too much , be happy .

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There’s no pressure, she doesn’t even know I’m thinking about the subject and it’d be slow and steady if I did

I’m a really laid back bloke, and she knows she can tell me anything without judgement

Ultimately it’d be up to her to what depth she went to.

I have fantasies I wudn tell her, and probably wudn want to act out as I see the possibility of how this could go wrong

Some common fantasy for women include rough play, 3 somes, domineering and girl on girl.

But these fantasies also have different depths, if she said some girl play, it could be from trying a kiss to full on scissoring lol or just even talk about the subject

Communication on what we both like and what we’d like to do may reveal we share common interests, but were too timid to discuss, an awful waste of time if we’re both itching to try something but not talking to try it

To me fantasy isn’t about talking about sexual acts then putting measures in place to make real those fantasies

It’s about having some fun, talking about what you think about, or dream about and communication to your own limits about what about the fantasy makes it appealing

We’ve been in some intense sexual scenarios, trust me there’s not alot of things she could say that we haven’t seen or been a part of, so it’s not like she’s going to suggest a fantasy that would shock me or make me feel negative thoughts towards her.

She knows this too

I just think it’s healthy to communicate, share likes and dislikes - which we do

She’s just not had much experience with fantasy, and by her own admissions she’s not very imaginative

It can be a fun thing to play with, and it stays just talk, and also a good vehicle to open up communication on what our turn ons offs and thoughts are

And this brings me back to the purpose of the post, it wasn’t to diagnose if she did or didn’t need fantasy in her life, but a few ideas on a gradual way of playing with the topic and letting HER DECIDE if its something she’d like to explore or not, but ideas needed on this topic other than my own, to ensure I approached this with a good base not just my ideals

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Get her the books mentioned above, or the audiobooks if she likes that. The Quinn app is very popular atm, maybe she could read or listen to those and then tell you about them. Maybe in conversation it would be easier to spark some thoughts.

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I would add that after becoming more sexually confident and reading books I’ve come realise that I enjoy being submissive in the bedroom. It’s taken me 52 years to get to know this! I’ve read two books recently to learn more.

The secret life of a submissive by Sarah K and The Diary of a submissive by Sophie Morgan (both true stories). They’ve helped me learn what turns me on and what turns me off in the different roles as a submissive. They’ve also helped me to communicate these feelings with my husband. I’m hoping he’ll read them too, but he’s not a big reader.

I’ve read and reread your comments here and I’m not sure I know what you’re trying to accomplish (like, outcome). It sounds like you have a very satisfactory and fulfilling sex life together and she’s a willing participant in exploring and growing together - she doesn’t sound dismissive or defensive about improving your daily intimacy.

Maybe describe your own perfect time spent exploring this with your wife, if you were to write a scene or vignette. Are you just talking about your fantasies over a glass of wine in the hot tub? Are you dirty-talking back and forth during sex? Are you writing back and forth?

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maybe she just enjoys being in the moment. I’d find it a bit offputting to be almost nagged about a fantasy, so you can enjoy acting it out. that’s your fantasy but maybe not hers?

I’d leave asking her about it for now, and gently suggest some new things you’d like to try.

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OK think I got this

Haven’t mentioned it to her yet…

But stop nagging her…

:joy:

Your original post (and much of your follow-ups) almost exactly matches our sex life, except we have been married for twice as long.

Over the years, although we have had very happy and at times quite adventurous (although monogamous) times, I just can’t get my wife to fantasise, take the lead or properly go for anything that involves role reversal. She just can’t do it.

To explain how we have made it work would be a long story, but one of the keys is being open and kinky enough for two people, and having as few inhibitions as possible.

I think there is a lot to be gained by lifting the pressure on her to be something she finds difficult or even impossible.

So I think the title of the post or my initial explanation has been lost in translation, and as a result the replies have been more about the ethos and psychological reasoning, rather than what advice I was actually seeking.

So, firstly - We discussed her lack of fantasy a long while ago, not mentioned it since - so no pressure, certainly zero nagging, and no expectations

The fantasy side was for MY benefit
We have had a sex life over the last?? Years that most men/women /couples would dream about, sex clubs, love swings, snowballing, cleaning up, bed straps, just to dip my toe in our sexual ocean
Most of MY fantasy thoughts we’ve done, or are still doing each week, having her have wild fantasy in HER head benefits me very little

I try to be the best husband, the best lover and her best friend and treat her as good as I possibly can, I’m crazy in love with her, and highly attracted to her, which she often says that “She loves how I Love Her”.

Most of the time I DO ALL the leading
This can be frustrating, but her lack of imagination is the wall, she assures me that she wudn do what we do if she didn’t want to, she’s just crap at coming up with ideas and doesn’t know what she wants?

So, onto the purpose of this post - are you sitting comfortably?

I was asking for advice on how to slowly introduce and play with the topic of fantasy.

Some good replies came in the form of possible books, we saw 50 shades awaken her previously, but we’ve not found any books that have recreated this, maybe the novelty isn’t there anymore or just not found the right book.

The idea was to slowly introduce the concept of fantasy to her, giving her a few thoughts possibly
Once I had information on how and what this was going to be, we’d discuss it.
If she wasn’t into it, fine. It’d get parked.

I don’t need to “Back Off”, as its NEVER BEEN ON

This is solely for HER benefit

I thought it would be nice for her to have a few naughty thoughts to make her smile inside, or think about during sex or masterbation etc

Maybe she does already have Fantasies, but too shy to tell me.

That’s HER perogative, it can stay that way, unless she relaxes a bit one day and decides to share - her choice

She swears she’s just not imaginative, she’s NEVER said she’s opposed to the topic, just not that good at it

Like anything, you have to try it to know if you like it.
But she’s never really played with the subject, being in a previous relationship that was boring, no love and unwanted.
On that note, she said she’d longed for a relationship where she was properly in love, so she must of fantasised about that, so she is capable, she just hasn’t put much thought into it, pardon the pun.

I have my ideas on what a slow approach might look like, but I wanted other ideas of other people, so my narrative wasn’t narrow and just my version, which could be wrong.

I love this woman to bits and wouldn’t push her, nag her or do anything she didn’t want to do, especially for my benefit & she knows this.

She/me doesn’t need psycho analysing, we just want some thoughts on fun ways to inspire fantasy into her world.

And after I collate enough information and filter it accordingly, I’ll discuss it with her, with the possibility of playing with the topic.

It’ll all be fantasy, I have no intentions of bringing a 3rd party into the bedroom or anything like that.

However, if she did have something shed like to do, Id jump at the chance of giving somethings back, she’s done enough for me in the past.

Ultimately its HER choice, if I approach the subject and she says, you know what, I’m just not into it, I’d never mention the subject again

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As my dad always says to me, ‘stop being facetious’. I’m sensing some frustration, just a tad :rofl: The thing is, people are less likely to contribute when they don’t understand what you’re actually asking for and other replies have been shot down. I think you’ve said what you want to ask, but then talked about so many other things, that your actual question gets lost.

So, can I check my understanding of what you’re wanting help with, bc you’ve talked so much that I had to keep rereading to remember. You want suggestions of things that might help to spark some sexy thoughts for your wife and then she might tell you about them and take the lead with getting sexy? Is that what you want?

Exactly what I’m asking

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Ok so I mentioned above about the Quinn app, that has a free trial, hopefully still does bc I want to get it.

More book suggestions are the Salacious Players Club series, theres 6 of them I think. I’ve read 3 so far, good story and each one focuses on a different kink. (I’ve sent him screenshots of particular bits that were sexy that I wanted to try.) This could help her see if she’s got an aching for any particular one. Haunting Adeline is another, it has a million and 12 trigger warnings, so check them before suggesting it, its violent and very sexy, if she likes it rough.

Basically anything that gets her talking, and maybe thats the issue, that she isn’t a talker. I have fantasies and tell him about them, but I’m submissive and during sex its very much him in control bc if he asks me a question, I can’t answer it bc I’m so immersed in what we’re doing that I don’t have a brain.

You could try an online quiz, google carnal calibration, it gives you different things to try and you both have to say yes, no or maybe to wanting to do them. Any that she says yes or maybe to, discuss it, talk about how you see if playing out.