A Danish tourism ad was pulled for being too 'promiscuous'....
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/8258473.stm
Its bloody rubbish either way!
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8261034.stm
The Secret Life of Sperm Donors
just been reading the sun this morning and come across this http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/woman/2658958/Bracelet-which-means-your-child-is-having-SEX.html
now i remeber wearing these bracelets when i was at primary school, (im 22 now) they was one of the many crazes like the big headed footballers, marbles and pogs ect ect though we only wore them as bracelets i do remeber hearing them called shag bands but being a child i didnt know what it meant. i dont remebere any colour meaning you had to do any acts or that you had to have sex, they was just worn as jewellry.
do any of you remeber these bracelets and if so did you hear of them being shag bands and colours meaning certain acts?
i personaly think that these bracelets are not being made and sold as "shag bands" but that there is some questionable people who have picked up on crazes young people like and then put about the "info" on the sex related side of them.
i find this disturbing for two reason
one, children so young as 11 shouldnt know about these sexual things and they certainly shouldnt know how to do them and what they are.
two, there is people out there who must be telling children the "meanings of these shag bands" and that they should do these acts when one is broken and what the differant acts should be per band. these "shag bands" are not the game making of children as far as im concerned and i can see a much more bigger sinster thing behind these.
what do you guys think on this?
Dxx
diamonds wrote:
one, children so young as 11 shouldnt know about these sexual things and they certainly shouldnt know how to do them and what they are.
two, there is people out there who must be telling children the "meanings of these shag bands" and that they should do these acts when one is broken and what the differant acts should be per band. these "shag bands" are not the game making of children as far as im concerned and i can see a much more bigger sinster thing behind these.
what do you guys think on this?
Dxx
I have to disagree with you there - children as young as 11 should absolutely know what sexual acts entail, that's the only way to prevent them being misinformed as puberty hits and their hormones go crazy. I think 11/12 is the ideal age to be giving kids comprehensive sexual education, including info on STIs, because the danger of them hearing some rumour and believing it is too high otherwise.
I certainly knew what a lot of sexual acts were when I was 11 - I would have appreciated proper information though. Because what I "knew" was a lot of misinformation.
All that aside, I think it's pretty sad that kids are becoming sexualised so young - I do see a difference between teaching kids about sex and giving them permission to do it.
shellyboo wrote:
diamonds wrote:
one, children so young as 11 shouldnt know about these sexual things and they certainly shouldnt know how to do them and what they are.
two, there is people out there who must be telling children the "meanings of these shag bands" and that they should do these acts when one is broken and what the differant acts should be per band. these "shag bands" are not the game making of children as far as im concerned and i can see a much more bigger sinster thing behind these.
what do you guys think on this?
Dxx
I have to disagree with you there - children as young as 11 should absolutely know what sexual acts entail, that's the only way to prevent them being misinformed as puberty hits and their hormones go crazy. I think 11/12 is the ideal age to be giving kids comprehensive sexual education, including info on STIs, because the danger of them hearing some rumour and believing it is too high otherwise.
I certainly knew what a lot of sexual acts were when I was 11 - I would have appreciated proper information though. Because what I "knew" was a lot of misinformation.
All that aside, I think it's pretty sad that kids are becoming sexualised so young - I do see a difference between teaching kids about sex and giving them permission to do it.
sorry i didnt write the correct i meant younger then 11, i think the last year at primary (so just before they go to big school where they will no longer act and think like a child) is a good age to teach children about sex and all the related issues to it.
i dont think its right that children under the age of 11 should know the in's and outs of sex and other sexual acts.
i think children should be children but i think sadly in this day and age thats getting an old fastioned point of view.
Dxx
Kids DO know though... and I think young kids, if they have questions, they should get answers. I mean, I foind condoms in my parents' drawers when I was quite young, 9 or 10, and I knew fine well what they were.
I agree that children should be children - but I don't think that means protecting them from the facts about sex.
shellyboo wrote:
Kids DO know though... and I think young kids, if they have questions, they should get answers. I mean, I foind condoms in my parents' drawers when I was quite young, 9 or 10, and I knew fine well what they were.
I agree that children should be children - but I don't think that means protecting them from the facts about sex.
thats all true but i think its all down to the parents to tell the kid the right amount of information for there age when they do have questions.
maybe i was just brought up very innocently, i did ask questions about things but my mum just told me enoth and then told me 11 all about the birds and the bee's.
Dxx
I dunno... I just think that by being honest with kids, not only is the air of mystery surrouding sex eliminated, it also takes away this aspect of rebellion from it, the naughtiness that spurs lots of young people on to experiment too young.
If/when I have kids, I don't want them thinking sex is something to be ashamed of, or kept quiet about... but I hope I'll be able to balance that with them not doing it too young! It's a really tricky problem - where's the line between education and encouragement?
Surely there are two separate issues here. Yes, children should be factually informed, but that's not the same as knowing about blowjobs and lapdances and rimming and goodness knows what else. Even the word "shag" seems totally inappropriate for children.
One thing though - I absolutely do not trust these quotes. I work with youngsters age 3 - 24, and those quotes do not reflect the way kids of the purported ages in the article speak. I'm convinced the quotes have been manipulated. A twelve year old wouldn't say "suck a boy's neck until you draw blood", they'd say "until it bleeds" or similar. I also very much doubt "cool crowd" is part of any twelve year old vernacular, but I appreciate this may vary regionally. Anyway, I question the veracity of this article - it feels like scare mongering to me.
I hope to God that's all it is anyway.
SS x
SweetSubmission wrote:
Surely there are two separate issues here. Yes, children should be factually informed, but that's not the same as knowing about blowjobs and lapdances and rimming and goodness knows what else. Even the word "shag" seems totally inappropriate for children.
totaly agree with you and much better put then i myself have wrote
Dxx
Totally, sounds completely like scaremongering to me too. The article is tenuous at best.
I don't see how you can be factually informed without knowing about the things you mentioned though. You can't educated someone *this much* and no more, it just causes confusuion. Whatever about rimming, I was probably in my 20s before I even knew what that was! But young kids need to know what a "blow job" is, what it means, and what the dangers are.
At 11 and 12, kids are kissing, they are experimenting and I think that's natural - there is a line though, no child should be performing oral sex at that age. But how do you say no to oral sex when you don't know what a "blow job" IS? This is where education needs to meet curiosity. Refusing to tell a child what a blow job is will have one result and one result only - they'll find out elsewhere, from the internet, or in real life. And neither of those options are as safe as an educated and responsible adult simply telling them what it means.
shellyboo wrote:
Totally, sounds completely like scaremongering to me too. The article is tenuous at best.
I don't see how you can be factually informed without knowing about the things you mentioned though. You can't educated someone *this much* and no more, it just causes confusuion. Whatever about rimming, I was probably in my 20s before I even knew what that was! But young kids need to know what a "blow job" is, what it means, and what the dangers are.
At 11 and 12, kids are kissing, they are experimenting and I think that's natural - there is a line though, no child should be performing oral sex at that age. But how do you say no to oral sex when you don't know what a "blow job" IS? This is where education needs to meet curiosity. Refusing to tell a child what a blow job is will have one result and one result only - they'll find out elsewhere, from the internet, or in real life. And neither of those options are as safe as an educated and responsible adult simply telling them what it means.
im sure the article is from the sun which is not known for being fact based and being truthful and more then likely is there to scare but it does rase some issues that every parent will go through.
its true its hard to know what is the right age and how much detail children should know but i think you have to work on age ranges.
for example should a 7 year old know the same amount of information on sex as a 11 year old?
i personaly dont think so.
actually on thinking about this i dont think anyone is ever going to agree on what to tell and what age to tell them things as this is all done to personl views and parenting styles.
me, if i ever have kids am going to handle sex how my mum did, i will answear the question to a degree of which i think is the right amount they should know and to also tell them how important it is that you have to be of the correct age and be safe to do said things and that if they ever have questions they can ask me and i will answear them. and that they can come to me no matter what.
my mum was open and honest to me, answearing my questions and i never had sex untill i was well past the age of concent, practesed safe sex and so far not had children and now have a happy healthy sex life that leaves me happy to experemeant with new things, so i dont think she did a bad job at all on this issue.
Dxx
Oh sure, Shellyboo, at 12, but some of the kids in this article are 7! I think you're right, whenever they start to ask the questions is the right time to give them the answers, but the seven year olds I work with really don't think about things like this. Obviously as I work with them, I'm bound by policy, but if I had a child of my own and they did ask, I wouldn't refuse to answer, god knows, I'd rather a child heard an adult's explanation than a bewilderingly garbled one from one of their peers! But until they hit senior school and are confronted with more sexualised behaviour, the majority of children won't ask about blowjobs. Where babies come from, yes, but not sex for pleasure. That's what I mean about informed facts on a need to know basis. I've got not problem with a five year old knowing the basics about how their baby brother got made, as I say, it's about answering the questions as they arise.
SS x
diamonds wrote:
actually on thinking about this i dont think anyone is ever going to agree on what to tell and what age to tell them things as this is all done to personl views and parenting styles.
I agree, I would even go so far as to say it's down to the individual child - and not their age - that determines what they're ready to hear and understand.
SweetSubmission wrote:
Oh sure, Shellyboo, at 12, but some of the kids in this article are 7! I think you're right, whenever they start to ask the questions is the right time to give them the answers, but the seven year olds I work with really don't think about things like this. Obviously as I work with them, I'm bound by policy, but if I had a child of my own and they did ask, I wouldn't refuse to answer, god knows, I'd rather a child heard an adult's explanation than a bewilderingly garbled one from one of their peers! But until they hit senior school and are confronted with more sexualised behaviour, the majority of children won't ask about blowjobs. Where babies come from, yes, but not sex for pleasure. That's what I mean about informed facts on a need to know basis. I've got not problem with a five year old knowing the basics about how their baby brother got made, as I say, it's about answering the questions as they arise.
SS x
Yeah, I'm totally in agreement with you there.
I can't help but think, though, that if some of these 11 year olds DID know what a blow job was, they'd be less reluctant to be offering them to boys via bracelets! I know when I was that age, I might have fancied boys, but the chances of me putting an actual penis in my mouth were very slim - I would have thought it was the most disgusting thing ever!
I wore "shag bands" in secondary school, I think I had them just before the "shag band thing" was first circulating though, then I remember after I had them for a while everyone in my school started wearing them and the whole thing about "if you break them it means you have to have sex" started up....I think it's a lot more innocent than the news article makes out....I'm pretty sure most of the kids who've heard about it aren't planning on having sex and it's some childish game...like "kiss chase" it never means anything to the kids and in the terms of the bracelets they won't actually be practising any of those acts, it's just they think it's funny to joke about it.
Equally, I agree if kids where educated about it in a more regulated way then maybe they wouldn't find the "joke" so funny!.....and anyway, boys have "germs" don't they?
I think it's a little game kids have and the papers have taken the "game" way to seriously, if they want to take anything seriously it should be the lack of education those kids have!
It lives! Random/useful/wierd Sex in the news is back!
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2010/01/100126-sex-puppeteers-wasps-parasites-virgin-birth-sex-changes/
"Males are transgendered into fertile females, or killed. Virgin females give birth—no fathers needed. The sperm of infected males is rendered useless in uninfected females."
Scary nature story this time! :P
Ooooo two more:
The Way A Woman Negotiates Condom Use Influences How She Is Perceived By Others
http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/177442.php
Seems to be fellow ladies judging more harshly... I think they should be referred to as 'the jealous ones".
Gay to Straight Conversion... Not archaic medicine, but people NOW currently trying to 'cure' homosexuals.
http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and-families/features/the-exgay-files-the-bizarre-world-of-gaytostraight-conversion-1884947.html
Going back a couple of posts i got those shag bands for my daughter (6) and nephew (8) for christmas, all the kids at there school are wearing them, we used to wear them and i've only just heard about the supposed meaning of them, i'm not worried about them wearing them i think it's probably teenagers that use them as shag bands, kids just like them.
Avrielle_Aniko wrote:
WandA wrote:
Ooooo two more:
The Way A Woman Negotiates Condom Use Influences How She Is Perceived By Others
http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/177442.php
Seems to be fellow ladies judging more harshly... I think they should be referred to as 'the jealous ones".
Gay to Straight Conversion... Not archaic medicine, but people NOW currently trying to 'cure' homosexuals.
http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and-families/features/the-exgay-files-the-bizarre-world-of-gaytostraight-conversion-1884947.html
It really annoys me with the homosexulas being cast out in this day in age.. Bloody Western religious cultures! Me and the OH were talking about the beliefs of certain diseases such as syphilis and AIDS and even simple, curable STD's being wrong and sent from the devil and anyone who had it was unworthy of god etc.. It makes me ill that some people feel this way, and would rather these poor people would die because they were too tainted for god and were sure to be sent straight to hell.
I'm sorry for the little rant. Felt I needed it out of my system though..
I use a certain site to get good political info or science stuff... but it has alot of conspiracy nuts on it... plently of AIDS deniers who P me off big time! One recently claimed no viruses cause symptoms, didn't take long to point him in the direction of a few google links, he quickly back tracked over that 'statement'..... And Hey AA, its not JUST Western religion! ;)