First of all sorry to anyone who gets mad at me for posting on here. Just don't read :)
My new dildo, the info says you have to use doc johnson products and UR3 powder only. So does that mean i can't use the LH versions? Because you get much better value for money with the LH brands.
Also is this skinsafe to use without a condom aswell?
No, you don't have to only use Doc Johnson products. They could just be nicely telling you not to use things like talc, but more likely they're just trying to get business. I am pretty sure the ingredients are the same in all those renewer powders, and there's nothing special/unique about their lubes or cleaners.
You'll get mixed opinions on the condom issue. I am in the no camp, as any porous material (including ur3) will gather bacteria you just can't clean away. I'd rather use a condom than have an infection!
EDIT just checked our ur3 powder and it is 100% cornstarch, just like the LH version :)
Personally i wouldve thought that the branded stuff and the lh stuff is almost identical so i would use lh stuff. You could check the ingredients maybe and see if theres anything in one thats likely to cause damage?
I have done some research and UR3 powder is cornstarch so As JM88 says most likely LH's powder should should be fine.
It alway good to ask questions if you are unsure, you don't have to apologise to anyone.
Sorry if I'm being a bit blonde here as I don't own any toys that need renewer powder.
but, if it's 100% cornstarch couldn't you just use normal cornstarch from the supermarket? Wouldn't it be much cheaper?
Lollipop ;) wrote:
Sorry if I'm being a bit blonde here as I don't own any toys that need renewer powder.
but, if it's 100% cornstarch couldn't you just use normal cornstarch from the supermarket? Wouldn't it be much cheaper?
You can absolutely use regular cornstarch from the supermarket.
With the renewer powders, you are paying more for the convenience of having it in a nice little tub with a shaker, making it easier to dispense and apply to the product. But i'm sure you could pick up a little shaker on the cheap from a kitchen shop and it will do exactly the same thing.
Thank you David :) guess it wasn't such a stupid question after all.DavidB1986 wrote:
Lollipop ;) wrote:
Sorry if I'm being a bit blonde here as I don't own any toys that need renewer powder.
but, if it's 100% cornstarch couldn't you just use normal cornstarch from the supermarket? Wouldn't it be much cheaper?
You can absolutely use regular cornstarch from the supermarket.
With the renewer powders, you are paying more for the convenience of having it in a nice little tub with a shaker, making it easier to dispense and apply to the product. But i'm sure you could pick up a little shaker on the cheap from a kitchen shop and it will do exactly the same thing.
Thank you everyone! Haha Lollipop i am totally clueless too this is my first UR3 dildo and i actually love it (hello i have a perfect mold of one of my favourite porn stars cock!) I didnt have a clue!
Ok this is awesome, i was watching the reviews and it seemed to be the same thing just that you get ten times more with the LH version that what you do the UR3 version,
This is great :) Can i ask if this is body safe? Although with a toy like this i think i will still use a condom on it!
It's so freaking BIG oh my gosh!
I'll be honest here, the chemist in me doesn't actually trust UR3 products. Information from the manufacturer is sketchy and hard to find, they claim it to be phtalate free but no tests have been done or showed to prove it is. Up to now, I'm sticking to pure silicone toys for this reason. The day I'll have access to a GCSM and I'll be able to take a sample from an UR3 toy and make a thorough test, I'll may consider them body safe. For the time being, I'm happily in live with my silicone toys. But that's just my own opinion, not going to bash anyone that actually likes UR3 toys, let's be clear.
Due to it's composition, it's very porous and bacteria and germs will thrive in it, so I guess using a condom is the right choice when using them.
GeekyEleanor wrote:
I'll be honest here, the chemist in me doesn't actually trust UR3 products. Information from the manufacturer is sketchy and hard to find, they claim it to be phtalate free but no tests have been done or showed to prove it is. Up to now, I'm sticking to pure silicone toys for this reason. The day I'll have access to a GCSM and I'll be able to take a sample from an UR3 toy and make a thorough test, I'll may consider them body safe. For the time being, I'm happily in live with my silicone toys. But that's just my own opinion, not going to bash anyone that actually likes UR3 toys, let's be clear.
Due to it's composition, it's very porous and bacteria and germs will thrive in it, so I guess using a condom is the right choice when using them.
Really? Thank you for letting me know this as it was something i never would have thought! But i always use a comdom with ones like this. The material does not feel safe to use without :)
My OH has the John Holmes UR3 and has no problems washing /drying and dusting down with normal unscented talc. I too enquired about the talc when the supplied lot ran out but was told normal unscented talc was fine...
Enjoy!!
Thank god it wasn't just me being a bit blonde lol :P. Enjoy hun :) xxMissBrownEyes92 wrote:
Thank you everyone! Haha Lollipop i am totally clueless too this is my first UR3 dildo and i actually love it (hello i have a perfect mold of one of my favourite porn stars cock!) I didnt have a clue!
Ok this is awesome, i was watching the reviews and it seemed to be the same thing just that you get ten times more with the LH version that what you do the UR3 version,
This is great :) Can i ask if this is body safe? Although with a toy like this i think i will still use a condom on it!
It's so freaking BIG oh my gosh!
We had one of these. Didn't take care of it throwing it back in the sex box, came back to find a large 'melted' groove down the side. Presumed it was due to a battery resting against it (in hindsight don't know why!) but I think it was due to wrong lube. And it was expensive. So take care of it whatever you do.
Will get a replacement some day!
MissBrownEyes92 wrote:
GeekyEleanor wrote:
I'll be honest here, the chemist in me doesn't actually trust UR3 products. Information from the manufacturer is sketchy and hard to find, they claim it to be phtalate free but no tests have been done or showed to prove it is. Up to now, I'm sticking to pure silicone toys for this reason. The day I'll have access to a GCSM and I'll be able to take a sample from an UR3 toy and make a thorough test, I'll may consider them body safe. For the time being, I'm happily in live with my silicone toys. But that's just my own opinion, not going to bash anyone that actually likes UR3 toys, let's be clear.
Due to it's composition, it's very porous and bacteria and germs will thrive in it, so I guess using a condom is the right choice when using them.
Really? Thank you for letting me know this as it was something i never would have thought! But i always use a comdom with ones like this. The material does not feel safe to use without :)
No biggie. Polymers are my passion and field of studies, so I kind of know where to look. Problem is, I'm still a humble student and I can't use instruments as complicated as a GCMS on a whim, so I just wait and exam after exam, piling up lab hours, one day I'll get my own mass spectrometer. I can't wait.
Oh, wait: if you find that one of your toys melt or leak a strange oily substance, UR3 toys included, that's the phhtalates that, being a highly moveable molecule, travel through the polymer and out of the toy, in the form of that nasty oil that you can see in some cheap toys that break down. Yuck...
That's my thinking as well, I do have great doubts about UR3 and about stuff labelled "skin safe rubber" as well, seeing manufacturers hardly ever provide any info about actual chemicals used to make these toys. Some of these toys come in very appealing shapes and sizes but the materials just put me off.GeekyEleanor wrote:
I'll be honest here, the chemist in me doesn't actually trust UR3 products. Information from the manufacturer is sketchy and hard to find, they claim it to be phtalate free but no tests have been done or showed to prove it is. Up to now, I'm sticking to pure silicone toys for this reason. The day I'll have access to a GCSM and I'll be able to take a sample from an UR3 toy and make a thorough test, I'll may consider them body safe. For the time being, I'm happily in live with my silicone toys. But that's just my own opinion, not going to bash anyone that actually likes UR3 toys, let's be clear.
Due to it's composition, it's very porous and bacteria and germs will thrive in it, so I guess using a condom is the right choice when using them.
Briona87 wrote:
That's my thinking as well, I do have great doubts about UR3 and about stuff labelled "skin safe rubber" as well, seeing manufacturers hardly ever provide any info about actual chemicals used to make these toys. Some of these toys come in very appealing shapes and sizes but the materials just put me off.GeekyEleanor wrote:
I'll be honest here, the chemist in me doesn't actually trust UR3 products. Information from the manufacturer is sketchy and hard to find, they claim it to be phtalate free but no tests have been done or showed to prove it is. Up to now, I'm sticking to pure silicone toys for this reason. The day I'll have access to a GCSM and I'll be able to take a sample from an UR3 toy and make a thorough test, I'll may consider them body safe. For the time being, I'm happily in live with my silicone toys. But that's just my own opinion, not going to bash anyone that actually likes UR3 toys, let's be clear.
Due to it's composition, it's very porous and bacteria and germs will thrive in it, so I guess using a condom is the right choice when using them.
Vulcanized silicone rubber is way better than UR3, in matter of chemical addictives. Skin Safe Rubber, also known as silicone rubber, is a widely used elastomer of silicone (-R-Si=O-) where R (stands for substitute) is usually molecule composed of carbon, hydrogen and oxigen to make it a little bit more rigid. It's cheaper than medical grade or pure silicone, but human-designed silicone rubber usually vulcanized, rather than catalyzed, it's a physical process that gives the rubber its shape and properties like elasticity and such, rather than a chemical, like with plasticizers such as phtalates. It's still a little porous and needs to be thorougly cleaned before and after each use, but it's waaaaay better than a weird mix of Chthulu knows what.
The thing that bugs me about UR3 is that it is a blend of PVC (CH2-CH-Cl) and silicone (Si=O). Those two polymers don't actually mix well together, so they have to add something to make them blend and stick to one another (that's what usually phtalates do, they lower the temperature of solidification to make the polymer more flexible) but they won't release the actual chemical composition fearing other manufacturers would steal the idea. But there's no patent depositated apparently, no tests have been done or if they have been, they haven't been released for public knowledge, and to me that sounds a little sketchy. Maybe I'm overthinking it, but at this extent, I don't trust it.
Is cornflower the same as cornstarch?
MissBrownEyes92 wrote:
Is cornflower the same as cornstarch?
Yes :)