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How long are usb rechargeable products supposed to last for? Mine charges still but only 2 minutes use after full charge

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That would depend greatly on the product but 2 minutes doesn’t sound right unless it is super powerful and a stupidly tiny motor.

Have you tried charging it in a different way? Sometimes if you use too many extension leads toys won’t charge properly. If you charge through a computer, sometime security updates can stop toys from charging (although they look like they are). Some toys need their specific charger etc.

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We have a good number of USB Chargeable toys and they all last for ages. I do a bulk charge of them all once a month but other than that we don’t even think about it.
They don’t even really need that but I just like to keep them topped up.
Something doesn’t sound right with your toy as it should last much longer than that.

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Definitely doesn’t sound right, have you had it long? Things like overcharging and leaving them uncharged for long periods of time can damage the battery and cause it to hold less charge.

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2 minutes does sound extreme. Perhaps faulty. Perhaps shirt circuited.

How long are you able to use the toy before it’s drained is perhaps the most relevant question to ask.

But. In context. The Bath Mate sold on LoveHoney (the hair trimmer), says it takes 9 hours to fully charge on first use. Mine took less than an hour. And it was completely drained when I got it. I don’t even remember the post drained charge time indicated but mine is usually fully charged in less than 15-30’ minutes rather than the number of hours stated.

All of my body hair trimmers (of which there are too many)… are the same experience. Way faster charges than indicated in manual with correct wattage and all wattage going to the item being charged. (Without exceeding wattage limitations)

Is it a USB-C toy? If so their charge rate is (I can’t recall exactly but think), 10x faster than a USB 3.0 (blue), Which is I think 10x faster than USB 2.0 (white).

I’m a tech dork but haven’t looked up charging conversions in a long time.

It also could depend on the wattage of the charger. A 90 watt charger with a USB connection charges infinitely faster than a 45 watt with a USB connection (though the charge is still limited by the USB type).

All of those are infinitely faster chargers than a surge protector with a USB charging slot built in as the total wattage for the surge is allocated differently per charging port or usb slot.

If anything, I would be concerned you’re using a too powerful charger and it’s short circuiting the toy.

I can only think of maybe 5 sex toy (related) items that are USB-C that can sustain a 90+ watt charger off the top of my head.

I totally misread. I am going with my usual blame. Not awake and no coffee yet. ™:roll_eyes:

As many others have stated. 2 minutes isn’t relatively close to the correct “use” time after a full charge.

And as @RacyRosalee pointed out. It’s most likely due to over charging a device without a trickle charge capability.

(Meaning the device was plugged in and over-charged. Which also over heats the battery.) Both of those separate issues kill battery charge life at an equal level of battery deterioration.

It could be due to over-wattage limitations being used to charge the device as well. Which essentially means the battery has been short circuited.

Hopefully the toy is newish (1-2 years) and still under the manufacturer warranty. If so. Send it out for a repair/return and (assuming any of the above applies), be careful not to repeat them.

It’s possible you simply got a faulty item from the go, but that’s pretty rare in my experience. However. If that is the case, the manufacturers warranty will cover that as well.

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USB Charging, Voltages and Current’s can get a bit confusing so I have tried to simplify it for you using the below details.

Important
You cannot use too high of a current. The Current Drian is pulled by the connected device, not pushed by the charger.
You can provide too much voltage but if you are using good USB chargers there should not be a problem as they are set to output a maximum of 5v. If you have a USB charger that says that it provides a different voltage do yourself a favour and bin it. It will break things.
The higher the current you can provide, the fater and better the charge will be.
If you are using a charger a general rule of thumb is that you get what you pay for and in some cases where items may have been purchased very cheaply from far a way lands, they have been known to catch fire.

The best charge will depend on the connectors being used.

If you are using USB A or B and you are charging from a computer you will likely get a maximum of 900mA charge as a standard PC USB port only provides 900mA maximum. For USB A or B an external charger will give a much better charge as they will usually provide 2A (10.0W).

*These are the default power levels for each port type).

USB A
Standard USB at 5 volts
100mA - 0.5W
500mA - 2.5W
900mA - 4.5W *
1.0A - 5.0W
2.0A - 10.0W

USB B
Standard USB at 5 volts
100mA - 0.5W
500mA - 2.5W
900mA - 4.5W *
1.0A - 5.0W
2.0A - 10.0W

If it is a USB 3 device then charging from a Computer or Laptop directly should give you a good charging current. Most USB 3 ports cap provide up to 3.0A (15W) as standard. If your computer only provided a lower current you may want to consider investing in a USB 3 charger. But weigh up the pros and cons first as USB C chargers are a lot more expensive as other USB chargers.

USB 3 (C)
Standard USB (Not PD) at 5 volts
100mA - 0.5W
150mA - 0.75W
500mA - 2.5W
900mA - 4.5W *
1.0A - 5.0W
1.5A - 7.5W
2.0A - 10.0W
3.0A - 15W
PD (Power Delivery - Power Laptop over USB)
20V - 5.0A - 100W
48V - 5.0A - 240W

Hopefully that has made things a bit easier, but any questions post them here and I’ll try to help.

LPX

There is a USB-3.

As there is a USB 1 and 2. 1 is black on the male (edited autocorrect) pin, 2 is white, and 3 is blue.

And a USB-C. They are different connections and colors. I was reading through your list of (appreciated) correct listings of currents and wanted to point out that I think there has an error in that last as USB3 (C) are not the same connections nor charge rates.

USB 3 is a USB standard that was released in 2008 whilst USB C is an implementation (type of ports/cables/connectors) of USB 3.2 that was released in 2017.

For the sake of simplicity If you have the rectangular (USB 1, 2, 3 and 3.1) connector work on the assumption that you have USB 2 type device. If you have the smaller rounded USB C connector then go for a USB 3 Charger, this way you are unlikely to fry the device.

That sounds like the battery charge memory has failed or decreased. Maybe you haven’t used or charged it for a very long? If it’s still in warranty you might be able to get a new one.

I agree. It was just the notation that was confusing that I was pointing out. With regard to USB 3 (C).

However. Maybe you will be able to answer a question I’ve never bothered to research.

There is no argument that a standard Apple (USB) charger charges the same iPhone or iPad at a much much slower rate than a 12W Apple Charger does.

Nor that the same devices when charged with a USB-C 29W charge insanely faster in comparison.

Your list states that the devices can only pull what they can pull and can’t be overcharged by a more powerful charger than a 5V charger and to throw away any device that says it provides more than 5V.

Both of the latter devices (not the standard Apple come in the box chargers, but still Apple Chargers regardless) output more than 5V. Admittedly. It’s barely more than 5V.

My question is this. For the same devices with regard to all 3 different chargers. (Maybe more particularly with regard to the USB chargers both standard and 12W, to eliminate confusion of transfer rate of USB to USB-C cable limitations), what exactly is the reason for the charge time differential?

All of my Apple Devices are capable of pulling 12W/barely over 5V charges?If so. That also means they are all capable of pulling 29W/barely over 5V charges with USB-C as well?

The reason I’m asking is due to the fact that some of my ancient IPhones (and 1st Gen IPad Pro), that were released before the USB-C port was even available. So I would assume (which means I admittedly haven’t read product specs), that those older devices they aren’t exactly as high wattage capable as the newer ones that all result in the exact same charging speed differential.

I figured I would ask you since you’re more of an expert on this than I am and you offered to clear up confusion. And I’m clearly confused.

If it’s too in depth to explain here. I get it. I’ve dealt with wattage and voltage limitations when gutting and remodeling a house subject to historical preservation regulations. I just figured I would ask and see if you had an easy explanation and if not I’ll have to do the research myself and won’t take offense.

And should you choose to explain it to me. I’m appreciative. I should probably have just looked it up myself but I don’t even know where some of the model numbers are on my older Apple devices because they are buried in a box after moving, lol.

I think the variance around 5v you are talking about is probably the buffer that USB has built into it the standard. For all versions of USB this is 5v ±5%.

To draw 29W over USB 3 you would need to pull 3.75A (approx.) from a 5v charger which I don’t think exists. You may be able to do this from a PC/Mac but then the overcharge protection and thermal cut outs of the computer would kick in and manage the charging.

USB A and B (or 1 and 2) have a maximum charge voltage of 5v (±5%) so any charger outputting above 5.25v should be considered not ideal (for lack of a better phrase).

Anyway I think it might be best we leave this now. All this current and voltage talk has even started to turn me off.

Sorry everyone else.

Upon closer inspection, I think you’ve answered my question. The 29W USB-C Apple Charger is a 100-240v input and a 14.5V output. It was over 129$ when I bought it. It’s a legit Apple charger. And the PD-non PD (and Variance) are exactly in line with what you’ve stated.

If I upset you or you took my questions as argumentative I apologize. My natural curiosity gets the best of me and no intention of argument or aggravation was ever meant.

If you took it differently, I understand. However. Noted. And I won’t bother you with any more questions.

Mea Culpa

No need to apologise, I enjoy helping. Just don’t want to hijack someone else’s thread.

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Welcome to the forum :slightly_smiling_face: sounds like your toy might be faulty if anything and perhaps might prove best to contact customer service to see if there’s anything they’d recommend