We definitely prefer clubs 
we came off fab, was so much hassle, clubs are easier and we love how friendly everyone is and the social aspect
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Broad brush rash etc
Erevitable proof scattered across history, like in the millions, of how sex has been suppressed, controlled, dictated, punished and destroyed by those in positions of power in the name of religion.
Not saying religion is bad, I’m saying man’s interpretation of religion and using it as a tool to oppress, juxtapose that with the hypocrosy of those who say not to, while doing it themselves
Don’t even go down the church and paedo route lol 
My wife came from a strict religious household, where talking about anything sexual was like 100% frowned upon, so her view of sex was formed and molded as negative from an early age.
So, she’s lived a full life with a negative view of sex, a wasted life in that context, all in the name of religion…
Not to mention other religions who impose female mutilation on genitals, keep women in slavery to men etc
If you say religion isn’t a damaging aspect to freedom of sexuality, now that’s even richer!!!
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It’s more your description of non swinging couples as monotonous that i found highly entertaining.
Personally speaking from experience I think you should take it on a person by person basic,can they except it without judgement, Be ready for follow up questions.
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Non monotonous
As opposed to non monogonous was actually my phone at first, but I left it in as it made me laugh
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Ah.
Monotonous and monogamous do have very different meanings indeed, and would change that sentence quite a lot.
One i find extremely judgemental and borderline arrogantly rude, the other I fully ageee with.
Take your pick which is which.
I left it in cos it made me think about my monotonous sex life, outside of when we used to frequent clubs.
Go to the bedroom, maybe a bit of lingerie or a different position, maybe a new toy, but more often than not, just vanilla sex.
Clubs could involve jacuzzi sex, sex swings, restraints, glory holes and women’s glory holes, foam parties, dressing up - picking the outfit before hand, hotels and comfy beds, breakfasts, hotel sex… Plus fun of voyeur or exhibition sex.
Meeting people, late nights, booze, and the million other fun things a night out brings.
It made us devote an evening to US and intimacy, building up the vibe etc
We’re back to upstairs monotonous sex again now, and having seen the dark side it’s hard accepting this as being the go-to again, the norm.
Mrs good guy doesn’t want to do the lifestyle any more, vanilla is OK for her, and I have to accept that, but can’t help thinking what we do have is plain now in comparison
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Totally agree, full of time wasters.
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Thanks for this. My other half is dead set against clubs, he prefers hotels and discretion due to work. If I were to show him your post he’d only say that you are a bloke trying to put an argument forwards so women come to a club. He’s got it stuck in his head that somehow a club would result in me being unfaithful. This isn’t the case but I understand his worry.
I understand your point of view.
Been to amazing rave parties in the 00s…
Incredible nights, with my best friends at the time… seeing the sunrise after dancing the night away…
But for me, im more excited to have friends over for dinner these days, sharing a bottle of wine or two and perhaps a late night drink. Glad for past experiences, glad i lived them, but not a time I’d wish too revisit. I love my vanilla weekends.
Hope you get to reconcile yourself with the vanilla side in time, even though your extremes are very different to mine of course.
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Myself and my OH have recently got into swinging and are on a site but no one knows about it as to us this is part of our private life and as no one knows it is actually far more enjoyable for us as most people we know still live in the dark ages and wouldnt agree with what we are doing and are too ignorant to even want to understand
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Times are changing but sadly mindset doesn’t seem to be the same. It’s easier to keep things to yourself, it’s safer and easier that way.
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HI @Grainne just read your post. How difficult was it to get into swinging,any help appreciated
For us it kinda just happened lol. We had talked about joining this site for a while but never plucked up the courage until a few months ago and since then things have just taken off for us really. One thing we do find though is it can be hard to find the type of people we are looking for at times
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Thank you forr the information it is something we have talked about insee alot about fab singets but unsure
If you are thinking of joining fab i say go for it at the end of the day what is tge worst that could happen, you join and realise its not for you? There is no pressure to meet people and you can take things at a pace that suits you
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We joined Fab, but left soon after. Too big a rabbit hole and too many chancers. In the same way there are degrees and types of dating sites, it would be nice if there was a site for people with a bit more culture and class. Anyone know of a middle-class version of Fab? God, that makes me sound awful
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Oh this please.
If you find one let us know 
Swinging heaven is probably the best one outside of fab
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