I have been puzzling over this question for years and thought I would get your opinion. Being a size 12 and an hourglass I have the curvy hips, tiny waist and the big chest, but despite male attention have always desired to be a slyph like size 8. However my OH says that he finds the thinner women less attractive and that most guys infact like a curvier woman that "actually looks like a woman"! I find this shocking since most celebs, models and porn stars (that guys worship!!!) are these tiny stick thin women with no curves, and the ones that are curvy are labelled as fat :/
My girlfriend has big boobs and very broad soulders and a really nice round bum but a tiny little waist. She is about a size 10 and is absolutely average in height and weight but i would class her a slim but curvy. That is how I like my women, I agree here with Ork about women being honest with their shape. I have come across (no pun intended!) many women that call themselves curvy and buxom when infact they are just very overweight and neither curvy, nor buxom. Size doesnt matter but lying about it is a big no no for me. Just in the same way i suppose that men lie about their penis sizes :D
So on the analogy of women should just except if they r fat rather than giving themselves the curvy tag-
Where do plus size models fit in? Where does Nigella Lawson fit in? Where is the line between fat and curvy?
Curvy to me isn't just about the bust-waist-hips ratio, its about owning what uve got and being healthy, the perfect ratio does not define curvy (luckily even though I'm a size 14-16 I have a perfect hourglass figure). If curvy is all about the ratio then where does pear shapes fit in? A shape that is classified by a woman having a smaller bust, small waist and large hips meaning her size would range dramatically- I know someone who is an 8 on top and a 12-14 on bottom- is she therefore fat because her ratio is all wrong?
And interestingly it is healthier to be over weight than it is to be under weight. It's when over weight becomes obese/morbidly obese that I feel curvy cant be used to describe a person.
Oh and another interesting fact - if a rugby player (with lean muscles) was to be weighed and measured using the BMI scale then he would be classified as over weight because the BMI scales doesn't take into consideration your muscle to fat ratio
I too would like to know what sizes we are using to define "fat." I think a lot of this is to do with media and branding sadly and is destructive to female self-esteem. I never understood how sizes 14 or 16 are among the L section at TK Maxx when I was wearing those sizes in the past. We're told that 12-16 are the average sizes among women yet if "average" is bordering on large, there is something not quite right going on!
well im a size 18 and i have a mass difference in my body i got a big hips and ass but quite a smallish waist and big bust but my ex used to say he loved me the way i was!!! xx
And I can just say Crimson Vixen- you look amazing!!!
As a female I prefer the more shapely female figure
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Thanks!!!! Yeah I have a flat stomach just the hourgalss hips and chest, and they are both the same size with a 28" waist! I was just intriqued at what men actually think, since the media seem to tailor what women think guys find attractive and its awesome to know that its not the case but differs guy to guy! Women should be happy in their bodies for what they are!
Define curves? Nah but seriously if you say "curvy" then mean curvy, if your fat then accept that, a lot of people label themselves as curvy and then you see them and it's like.... "I really wouldn't care but calling your self curvy when well (without being offensive) your clearly fat" that for me is an issue.
Fat isn't a swear word but curvy and fat are not the same thing, some guy's like them as big as they can find them! Some guy's like them nice and skinny, some guy's couldn't give a damn what body type you are! Ask your self this does not every women have a specific body type of guy she prefers? Same thing really :)
Medically I am overweight, does that mean I should describe myself as fat even though I'm not particularly flabby? Have to say that I don't particuarly see myself as fat although I would prefer to be slimmer but maybe I should just see myself as fat because thats what I am medically? Then again most people are shocked I weigh as much as I do so maybe I do look slim? Or I suppose they could just be being nice and I actually look severely obese? Hmmmmm......
Maybe we should all stop labelling ourselves and if people you dont know asks you to describe yourself maybe the standard response should be "you will find out if you ever meet me"
Labels can be necessary. When I give out my clothes sizes for shoots, it's necessary I tell them that I'm incredibly curvy up top. If I give them a standard 'I'm an 8', then my boobs won't fit in a lot of clothes provided and they'd be angry. More often than not I have to wear a 10 or 12 and have the rest of the outfit pinned in to fit.
Likewise, if your partner's buying you an outfit, simply saying she's 'x size' won't cut it for curvier women. For me, the label curvy is really helpful. :)
If clothes sizes meant anything you wouldnt need fitting rooms. My wife is size 8 to 12 depending on what and where she is buying.
Labels can be necessary. When I give out my clothes sizes for shoots, it's necessary I tell them that I'm incredibly curvy up top. If I give them a standard 'I'm an 8', then my boobs won't fit in a lot of clothes provided and they'd be angry. More often than not I have to wear a 10 or 12 and have the rest of the outfit pinned in to fit.
Likewise, if your partner's buying you an outfit, simply saying she's 'x size' won't cut it for curvier women. For me, the label curvy is really helpful. :)
That I understand and quite a lot different from being asked if your curvy or fat, I don't fit into anything because of the cut of the clothes but I wouldn't say I'm fat either although medically I am.
Unfortunately it seems that clothes designers don't make clothes to fit "curvy" women. I'm almost always fine with tops but with trousers I never know if I will fit into a 10 or whether I need a 12. And with most things that don't have a tie to pull it in, I still tend to need a belt to combat the dreaded gaping in the small of my back. It seems that things that fit in the front are too big in the back... I've spoken to many women who have the same problem so clearly there's an issue with real sizes vs what designers think we look like (or what they think we SHOULD look like).
I do prefer thin women to be honest, never really been a fan of curvy women but I dont rule anything out... as it also depends on the personality of the person
Unfortunately it seems that clothes designers don't make clothes to fit "curvy" women. I'm almost always fine with tops but with trousers I never know if I will fit into a 10 or whether I need a 12. And with most things that don't have a tie to pull it in, I still tend to need a belt to combat the dreaded gaping in the small of my back. It seems that things that fit in the front are too big in the back... I've spoken to many women who have the same problem so clearly there's an issue with real sizes vs what designers think we look like (or what they think we SHOULD look like).
I suspect that there might be some intentionality in these sorts of problems. Advertising works by convincing us that there's some sort of problem in our lives which will be magically fixed by buying something. If clothing is 'good enough' that we buy it, that's one sale. If we try again because it's not quite right, that's a second sale. And since they're rarely as generous as LH with their returns.... %-)