Equality in Porn; R18 DVD availability

I am horrified by the prevalence of porn which misses out on the main attraction for me as a heterosexual woman. For porn to be interesting to me it must show me men as well as women. And when I say men I mean the whole man and in an aroused state.

To turn me on porn has to involve men with erect penises and I have to see them. I can get off on watching lesbian acts but those just become irritating if there is no chance of seeing another male member.

Apparently men are worried by the possibility of ‘eye slippage’ (at least according to Steve in ‘Coupling’) and/or of feeling inadequate.

Men, get over yourselves. Women have always had to put up with it. Your woman will be more physically attracted to you than the man on the screen; you are there. Women are also used to people not having the dimensions shown on screen.

Up until this summer I could only buy porn suitable for me in registered sex shops where the range of DVDs was limited and expensive. It was illegal to buy films classified as R18 on the internet.

Recently that has changed. Now I can buy porn by ‘mail order’ from other countries. Internet shops bring stock into this country in bulk, so it has been cleared by customs. I can order from off shore websites who despatch the DVDs from within the UK.

I am impressed with Tabooxxx.co.uk who have a category; ‘Feature Movies’ which takes me directly to my favourite style of porn. The average price of a film seems to be £17 as compared to £26 in my local licensed sex shops. At the moment they are doing a ‘purchase any two hardcore DVDs and choose a third one free’ offer.

My only disappointment is they don’t have a specific category; ‘Comedy’. But I suppose that would be too much to hope for. After all, if there is too much laughter, men are at risk of losing my most vital requirement; their erection.

At last!! Sure to be checking out your website suggestion. Always been a little put off by paying for american shipping - the spark's sort of gone waiting three weeks for delivery - and where exactly do you go about trying to find a registered sex shop??! Also, why is a bit of decent (for us women) porn classed R18 but theres plenty of blatant pussy shots in the cut 18 versions. Rather frustrating... anyway, thanks again - much appreciated. :)

Arg, that's one of my favourite complaints too!
And, why do the men never make any noise? Noise turns me on, i want to hear tha man on the film having a good time. There's plenty of heavy breathing and 'oh oh oh's from her, but he's silent til the money shot when you get a grunt.

Gah...

Is there a porn company somewhere run by women who know about these things?

Hear, hear! I would much prefer porn which had more of a focus on the man. Also, I quite like the alternative non-mainstream type of man, and in my limited forays I've had no joy in finding this sort of porn. I'm picky, I know ;). There are sites like SuicideGirls.com out there but they're mostly photographs of women, which isn't what I'm looking for.
Ann Summers have a range which are supposed to be geared towards women rather than men made by women http://www.annsummers.com/annaspan.asp.

Maybe this is why I don't like the stuff - not only does a man get paid 4 times as much as a woman in video's etc... (I have worked in this area - not starring!) But he is just basicly a penis for close up entry shots which quite frankly gross me out.

Pretty men in high arousal that appeal to women aren't common, because porn is usually made by men for men.

We have to feel inadequate looking at manufactured OTT 'perfect' glamour girls so why can't they put up with having small willes by comparison!

I hate the entire censorship thing! Why the bloody hell should some anonymous morality police dictate what I can view and what I can't. We are SUPPOSED to live in a free and democratic society after all. Okay, violent or illegal acts are one thing, but sex?!! It's not as if we aren't all doing, seeing and enjoying it ourselves first hand anyway. The hypocrisy of it all makes me really angry.

Plus - if I live in Germany / France / Spain etc I can buy whatever uncensored hardcore (and some if it really is extreme!) I want. But even though we live in the much trumpeted but over hyped European Union and have a "common market" I can't in the UK.

My solution? Sod the stupid UK rules - google for a Spanish / Dutch / German supplier and buy online. They'll happily send you anything you want, and because it's from inside the euro zone it wont be subject to customs checks.

Either that or buy in person next time you're on holiday. If you dont want to carry them back in luggage just post them to yourself.

No problemmo.

ps - as a bi bloke I find it easy, I can watch anything at all and get aroused :-)

ps - on the high quality porn thing... Seek and ye shall find, it's becoming more widespread thankfully.

Yes, there are some women run porn film businesses. The original and most famous is probably Good Vibrations in San Francisco. It's a collective run by gay and bi women. These days it also sells hetero stuff. They have a great list of high quality porn that has proper story lines, higher production values and doesn't treat women as meat. If I remember to find it I'll post the link.

Update:

Can't find an online link, but theres a good book that lists high quality adult films here:

The Good Vibrations Adult Video Guide
by Cathy Winks
$7.00

ISBN-10: 0940208229

ISBN-13: 9780940208223

Publisher: Down There Press

Hi, I have some comments about this but first wanted to know why you don't discuss websites rather than DVDs?

I live in China and I am growing to hate DVDs, from the manufacturing, packaging, and life expectancy they really do cause a lot of waste. Almost every adult video producer should be online now and you can find websites from many countries offering a mind blowing variety of monkey-sex media. :P

Referring to the thread. From my point of view human sexuality (love/lust/fetish) is extremely complicated and I dont think videos necessarily have to be made by a women to be for a women, though most of the porn out there is shallow and just geared at seeing 'what this guy can do to this girl' or some fetish thing rather then a positive feeling/atmosphere and good intense coupling by ideals.

I personally like amateur porn between couples or people truly attracted to each other - is there a thread to talk about good or bad adult websites? Then I could give you guys some examples and would like to know what you think.

Ok I have a question specifically about British law and "porn" - I read that in British law squirting videos are illegal because they are classified as "Goldenshower Pee Play Videos" or something to that effect.
I had a girlfriend before who would squirt during oral sex and of course squirting is real, funny, and she was very super happy.
I recently downloaded an instructional adult health video - 'squirting orgasms' - a guy and a girl demonstrating over 35 minutes on how to prepare to help give a girl a squirting orgasm through massage.
I think it is a really good video, he is smart and skilled - she is cute and natural and it can be watched by a couple.

My question is this: Is it true that videos about this are illegal in Britan? Does this have something to do with equality and the perception/understanding of women?

Also why discuss DVDs and not websites?

King where did you get this video and what is it called. My wife has occasional "squirting Orgasms" but wants to learn to do it more often.

I'd be interested in that video too, Kingrabbit, if you're able to share the source of it? Many thanks. :)

Hi. Ok I don't think I should share the torrent or the specific web address but I can show you how to find it.

I found the video with a torrent and on an important note:
I live in Shenzhen and this economy suffers from rampant piracy and I do not have access to the same products as back in Canada. Online shopping for example is extremely limited for products I want, but on a plus note I can go to the factories directly if I want to make a trip outside the city and I could also buy a DVD quality copy of 007, Rocky Crank and thousands of others for 5RMB at the old guy downstairs who also sells duck neck.
To get to the point it is less likely I will be sued.

In America and Canada and I believe Britain, some companies are trying to enforce lawsuits against people 'stealing information' and using the internet for 'immoral and improper' purposes. You should be aware of the situation where you live as there are Peers who hunt and sell your information.
Some hints to get that video:
Find a torrent program like utorrent
Set it up properly by reading and following the instructions, it requires a portforward because you should be using a firewall/router. Also your windows should be fully updated and you will need to change a connection limit, as the sp2 put restrictions on p2p.
There are ways to protect your utorrent from Peer scanning, read into it if you are interested.
Go to a torrent tracker check out a few different keywords.
The title is 'squirting-orgasms' and it is 691M.

As a disclaimer: Do not sell it and if you have the money and like it buy it if you can find it for sale.
It would be a good idea for someone to contact him to license or make some more videos. To be honest I think he would be happy helping.

What do you think? Useful?

Well personally I wouldn't EVER instal any P2P software on my computer because I don't want other people scanning my hard drive any time they want! It's not that I have anything illegal on there, it's just that there are a LOT of people out there ready and waiting to attack or rip you off in really nasty ways. Think more than twice before you use P2P.

As for China - it's about time the Chinese government stopped their industry copying anything they want and infringing intellectual copyright. But of course they wont - the Chinese government itself is behind a great deal of the technology theft that goes on in this world. And they can't stick to commercial contracts either.

Hi I wrote a great message here before but it's gone AWOL.
The most important thing is that I found the website so you can contact the guy directly:
www.ideagasms.com
i think the packaging could be worked on but the video is definitely worth it.
Also for sure about P2P, Be careful. ... PeerGuardian... will this message get nuked too?
Anyway the China issue is complicated and most of what anyone writes is half-ased propaganda, just like anywhere the only way to understand this place is to live it.

Ooooo. I have recently found that a man making noise is a powerful thing, so if noise were to feature in future porn DVD's, I'd be a happy lass. I truly feel inspired to continue with my teasings when the fella makes some noise AND writhes about a bit.It gives me a clue that I am going in the right direction...!!

Wow, just read your profile, do you have a twin with similar interests. Mark.

Yes, what is it with silent men? I'd never really noticed that before. But I know I have to moan and pant and give clear verbal indication of how much I am enjoying it all. And yet men are allowed to remain silent both on film and in my bed. I intend to take this up with him indoors tonight. (I think we probably learn too much from bad porn. I love talking dirty but I find I tend to do it in an American accent.)

As to why DVD's not websites - well regardless of security reasons I am shit at making back ups of what I've downloaded and am far too prone to having my pc fall over and need repairing at which point I lose all the stuff I've downloaded.

hi i'm challisangela's hubby me and my wife love to moan the bigger the moans the better the orgasm.

"the bigger the moans the better the orgasm"

I totally agree there. I'm very 'verbally appreciative', mostly because I've learnt from experience that the orgasms are SO much better when you can just let go and moan and scream to your heart's content! Holding back is just no fun.

My guy's not half as noisy as me, but he's thankfully not totally silent -- I have a feeling that would unnerve me!

im not half as noisy as my wife but i do let go. let him have a go some time you could like it. my wife love's it when i do. "the bigger the better" remember. have fun.