Recommendations for ED and PE

Not really something that I would usually post on an internet forum, but hopefully overcoming any potential embarassment will mean I'll save money in the long run and hopefully have more enjoyable sex.

Been with my girlfriend for almost 2 years, and for the most part of that we've been sexually active.

I knew from before we got intimate that I would probably be "quick", and talked to her about it beforehand - she was understanding, she got one of these (http://www.lovehoney.co.uk/product.cfm?p=7408 ) before we found LH. It didn't really appear to help too much - to get any decent effect from it, it would also become painful.

Handling PE on it's own is usually fairly easy, i.e wait a bit and go again. Which is where the ED kicked in. Thinking "Probably nerves etc, and will most likely pass with time", it didn't.

Early to mid last year we decided to look into other things that may help.

Off the top of my head, some examples are:

-making me come, and then her (oral and/or toy) so she's tighter and then try again. - This had mixed results, sometimes helped sometimes didn't.

- for a few months she was on the nuvaring (she's swedish, so can get it on their "NHS"), which helped most of time, but caused her to have mood swings so she stopped using it.

- Trojan Extended Pleasure condoms: These some of the time are great, other times, ED just kicks in due to the loss of some of the feeling, so again aren't always effective.

- Cockrings: These often help the 2nd time round, but like the love ring, are often painful for me rather than pleasurable.

- BJs: mixed results again, sometimes these help, sometimes they don't.

- Extended foreplay: usually results in being quicker, and doesn't have any effect on the ED.

Last month I finally bit the bullet and admitted to myself that it wasn't going to go away so booked myself in at the docs (at the time I thought Viagra could be available on the NHS, and then I started to research, and found in most cases it wasn't).

Went to the docs over a week ago to discuss the above, he agreed that it was most likely not psycological, and recognised that we had tried pretty much any recommended technique out there to help, he wanted me to have a blood test to rule out diabetes etc, went for that last wednesday, and went back to the docs today to discuss the results. Good news being that there's nothing wrong with me from that test. Bad news being is that I'm not eligable for Viagra on the NHS. Though he did give me the private prescription for free, for 4 50mg of viagra. I just need to pay for those. Even using pharmacy2u still works out at over £5 per tablet (ouch). Still I'm not going to let the free private prescription go to waste, and am going to give vigra a shot.

However, obviously I don't want to be paying through the nose to have enjoyable sex with my girlfriend for the rest of our lives, so want to arm myself with an arsenal of things to try, so I can work out what works best and for the cheapest overall price, these are some of the things I've thought of:

- Golden Root Complex (~£3/session)- I've been on the fence on this since I admitted my problems weren't going to go away, I've had bad experiences with herbal remedies recently, and not sure I really trust what has came out of China. This has mixed reviews, and it seems the MHRA aren't too happy about the way it's been advertised:http://www.mhra.gov.uk/Publications/Safetyguidance/DrugSafetyUpdate/CON030923

[quote]We have been made aware of several cases where a product sold as “Goldenroot
Complex” (promoted as a herbal alternative to Viagra for erectile dysfunction) has
been incorrectly advertised on the internet as regulated and approved by the
MHRA. There are no products that contain Golden Root (Rhodiola rosea) in the
UK that are licensed or registered for erectile dysfunction.[/quote]

I'm thinking this mainly means that there is no real link between the golden root herb and helping with ED, but it does sound pretty severe.

- Female Condoms (~£1/session) - As previously stated, for me not having a condom on helps, I don't know whether having her wear it will have the same effect, something worth trying without really any risks.

- Lust Buster Pump (£24 - one off) - not tried a pump before. The vacuum effect could help get him back up again after the 1st session. seems to have some minor risks from misuse.

- China Brush Delay Solution (~60p/session) - most likely would need to be used in combination with something else listed, again lack of trust for medical stuff that has came out of china has me worried.

Any comments on these or other suggestions are very much welcome.

Thanks for reading :)

Sorry to ask since I haven't known anyone with ED before, but is it a case of, wanting to be hard and not, or is it that just don't feel stimulated enough to get hard?

If that makes sense?

Do you suffer ED when you masturbate? If not then I would definitely say it is more of a psychological thing than anything wrong persay.

Geordie_Paul wrote:

Do you suffer ED when you masturbate? If not then I would definitely say it is more of a psychological thing than anything wrong persay.

Hmm while that certainly CAN be the cause what you have said isn't actually true.

Often ED is caused by too much solo fun - or more to the point, becoming desensitised because of it - the body can get 'programmed' to respond only to a very certain way of being touched and come to rely on this to reach a climax. With all the good will in the world, a mouth or pussy isn't gonna have the same feelings or grip as a hand.

The common advice is to limit masturbation and when you do, use a looser grip/loads of lube/ a condom so that the body gets used to this and eventually does cum this way out of desperation - sort of re-training.

kinkboyuk wrote:

Sorry to ask since I haven't known anyone with ED before, but is it a case of, wanting to be hard and not, or is it that just don't feel stimulated enough to get hard?

If that makes sense?

ope, there is no trouble getting hard, but the man finds it hard or impossible to cum through penetrative sex/oral etc... but can often cum when playing alone.

Look at me, I KNOW this stuff, but I still get uptight and think it's my fault. Stupid mind-f**ks. :(

bigbrownblowjobeyes wrote:

kinkboyuk wrote:

Sorry to ask since I haven't known anyone with ED before, but is it a case of, wanting to be hard and not, or is it that just don't feel stimulated enough to get hard?

If that makes sense?

ope, there is no trouble getting hard, but the man finds it hard or impossible to cum through penetrative sex/oral etc... but can often cum when playing alone.

Look at me, I KNOW this stuff, but I still get uptight and think it's my fault. Stupid mind-f**ks. :(

I was just trying to get more info as what I meant was is he able to get hard by himself as in looking at porn on his own rather than when his GF is there. Not so much when masturbating, can he gain arousal through visual and slight touching by himself as opposed to when his GF is there. If so I would say more psychological.

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kinkboyuk wrote:

Sorry to ask since I haven't known anyone with ED before, but is it a case of, wanting to be hard and not, or is it that just don't feel stimulated enough to get hard?

If that makes sense?

For me, the former. With wanting to be hard, and only seemingly getting about halfway there sometimes.

Geordie_Paul wrote:

Do you suffer ED when you masturbate? If not then I would definitely say it is more of a psychological thing than anything wrong persay.

Oh yes, happened when I was single too, so under no "pressure" then either. Sometimes I would give up on masturbating and leave it for another day. Back then I thought maybe I just wasn't properly in the mood or so, and didn't exactly want to go to the docs about it.

The problem for me is there is no constant, sometimes I can be rockhard when not 100% in the mood (e.g. when tired), and sometimes I can be really horny, and barely be hard enough for penetration.

One thing that I do know is viagra turns it on its head though, possibly a bit too much, but I can't complain External Media

bigbrownblowjobeyes wrote:

kinkboyuk wrote:

Sorry to ask since I haven't known anyone with ED before, but is it a case of, wanting to be hard and not, or is it that just don't feel stimulated enough to get hard?

If that makes sense?

Nope, there is no trouble getting hard, but the man finds it hard or impossible to cum through penetrative sex/oral etc... but can often cum when playing alone.

Look at me, I KNOW this stuff, but I still get uptight and think it's my fault. Stupid mind-f**ks. :(

I assume your problems are unrelated to Bens? If so, may I suggest putting him in chastity? Preventing a man from touching himself at all and not letting him cum is a good way to build up the intensity of his erections. When going for long periods without stimulation, any touch can be a turn on.

kinkboyuk wrote:

bigbrownblowjobeyes wrote:

kinkboyuk wrote:

Sorry to ask since I haven't known anyone with ED before, but is it a case of, wanting to be hard and not, or is it that just don't feel stimulated enough to get hard?

If that makes sense?

Nope, there is no trouble getting hard, but the man finds it hard or impossible to cum through penetrative sex/oral etc... but can often cum when playing alone.

Look at me, I KNOW this stuff, but I still get uptight and think it's my fault. Stupid mind-f**ks. :(

I assume your problems are unrelated to Bens? If so, may I suggest putting him in chastity? Preventing a man from touching himself at all and not letting him cum is a good way to build up the intensity of his erections. When going for long periods without stimulation, any touch can be a turn on.

Yeah, sounds like her man's issue is almost the opposite of mine. :)

No no, the advice I gave is pretty standard not relating to anyone in particular. Sorry if that was unclear.

Becomming turned on is not the issue at all.

I thought you were talking about your bf

Apart from one reference which was vaguely related I was just answering the direct questions that I quoted - hence the quotes ;). That's all :)

Doh's! You know what i did, half asleep the otrher day, read DE instrad of ED

Ignore moi :p

Lol. That did seem a little strange to me...