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Did someone say dungeon ?
Mine was Grade 2 listed
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Ooooh that’s looks very interesting, a bit bare without all the luxuries that I dream will be in my dungeon - but it’s a jolly good start.

It looks like a Game of Thrones dungeon.
Wouldn’t mind dragging Khal Drogo in there :drooling_face: and showing him who’s in charge

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As it’s a dungeon, there are stairs down. Don’t reckon Drago is gonna make it back out any time soon
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Must admit, I googled this when you first mentioned it. Looks absolutely incredible, I’m quite jealous.

Look forward to hopefully hearing your review after you’ve been…

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@Cupc8kes it took an argument for everything to finally click for me. Not only that I was maybe a bit dense but she really (not that I recall) never fully laid out how she felt.

To preface, we have two 6-month old puppies. We live in California so our “back yard” is a giant dirt clod that maybe used to be covered with grass 20 years ago. Therefore whenever they go outside to go potty, they at the very least track dirt everywhere. They also bring in rocks and sticks and leaves to chew on and play with. This leaves the floor noticeably dirty.

I’m going to blame this on the “husband’s eye”, but OH used to come home and I’d see her cleaning up a bit but it never really registered in my mind what was happening.

I’m sure in her mind she thought, “Hubby sees me cleaning after I get home at MIDNIGHT and he still doesn’t help me with any of this!”

Now to all of the OHs that are feeling this way, your other half can just be super dense sometimes. Seriously, spell it out for us. We’re not total jerks, I promise :wink:

Anyway, in my mind I thought," Why is she cleaning? She’ll go to sleep right after. AND first thing in the morning the dogs will go potty and get it dirty again, and she will literally not even be able to enjoy the floor being swept."

It blew my mind that she cleaned knowing it would only remain clean while she was asleep and just get dirty before she could enjoy it.

One day when OH and I were both off of work together, she entered into one of her cleaning frenzies. This of course included tasks that she wanted me to do. Of course I can’t say that I didn’t grumble a bit when she had hours of cleaning lined up for me on my day off of work.

But I did get stuff clean. There was one task in particular that really just got under my skin. It wasn’t an especially unpleasant task but it was the way she wanted it done. I had my idea on how to accomplish the task, and my wife had her idea.

Being totally honest, my way seemed more efficient. She explained what she wanted and I explained why I wanted to do it my way and also why it was more efficient to do it my way. Plus since I’m doing the task, I didn’t feel like I should have to take the longer method to get to the same result and needlessly waste time.

OH wasn’t having it though. She started in with the whole, “You never help out, I’m always cleaning and you just sit there on the computer on fb and watch me work.”

She wasn’t wrong. But I also don’t believe in cleaning when things are going to get dirty again right away. I don’t shower before going to the gym, I don’t wash my car when it’s raining, I don’t sweep up after dogs that are just going to turn the house into a zoo again in a few hours anyway (unless it’s just really bad, but not the small specs of leaves & dirt that accumulates daily).

So she said I don’t help clean, I asked her why she even cleaned at all every day when it’s not needed every day (my opinion).

That’s when she told me directly how she felt about coming home to a dirty house every day. Just no mental peace going to sleep knowing the kitchen was dirty and the floor was still unswept.

So that led into discussing very specifically what things I could clean before she comes home every day to make her feel happy and peaceful and that she’s walking into a clean house.

She listed things and now I’m much better about cleaning. Knowing just how much she needs it mentally and emotionally, and knowing exactly what she wants done really helped me get my butt in gear and help out.

Now just about every day I have the dishes out of the sink and in the dish washer. The pots and pans are cleared off the stove and counters with the food put properly into the fridge if there are leftovers. The floor is swept. The dogs toys are put away so OH doesn’t trip over them. And as she has a desire for ribs on the grill, I make that for her.

Now she can come home and walk in with a smile on her face and peace in her heart that she has a hubby that finally supports her cleaning needs.

Wow that was long. But I think the argument we had helped too. Also I’m legit dense. :rofl:

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It’s really good to see that you have worked together and compromised to get to a solution where you can both be happy :slightly_smiling_face: that’s where I need to be.

I feel like I have spelled it out to hubby enough times.
The problem is he can easily ignore the mess, doesn’t see it as an issue and is lazy around the house.
Maybe he’s always had someone to clean up after him so he’s never had to do it himself.

It’s just so draining for me - I really want him to realise that bit more understanding and effort would actually go a long way. But I also don’t feel appreciated for all the shit I constantly do around the house.

This is the one thing that would make my marriage just about perfect - I guess we can’t have it all :smirk:

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I can personally say I feel bad as much as my wife brought it up passively and I “should have gotten the point.” Don’t underestimate an OH’s ability to be dense :wink: Also once you hear the same thing over and over again you kinda tune it out. I know it’s bad to say, and I feel like a jerk saying it, but that’s kinda where I was with OH before our argument.

She would just kinda clean, then if things got bad she’d yell and me and whoever didn’t do their chores (me lots, son dishes, daughter trash) and we’d scramble to fix it and the cycle would repeat.

I’m not saying that’s good, that was just our cycle. Sometimes it’s just gotta click.

THIS! I was not especially bothered by the mess the same way my wife was. It would get bad enough to where OH would just clean it. And her point of “can’t stand it” was well before my point of even hardly being bothered by it.

It sucks but it probably won’t change until it ‘clicks’ for him. I’m sorry I don’t have any recommendations on how to help that process, I just know how it clicked for me.

Though I sucked at helping as much as I could have been, I did help out more than not. I also did make an effort to express verbal gratitude when OH cooks meals, folds laundry, and other things. I will not say I did a phenomenal job with that, but I feel I did not do too terribly horrible :grimacing:

Though I did verbally say “thanks”, I think actually helping out OH with chores would have expressed gratitude more than just hearing words of appreciation.

Ugh. I wish I could share my “getting it” knowledge with your hubby. Too bad we can’t just synchronize our ‘click’ moments with others so they understand. Sorry @Cupc8kes

But you still do have an awesome marriage! I recommend not focusing on the negatives (not at all saying you are). Most people aren’t aware of all the epicness they do have. That’s why “you don’t know what you have till it’s gone” is often all too accurate.

You keep going and hopefully hubby will understand sooner than later :grin:

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Thanks for your long reply :rofl:

Usually I get mad but just get on with it then sometimes when I’m really mad I have to let it all out and tell him just how I’m feeling.
He will agree and be sorry, then say he’ll start helping out … It may last a few days, then soon slips back into previous habits.

I just don’t know the answer and what will make it ‘click’ for him.
I’ve told him before - I want to feel confident that if anything was to happen to me, I need to know that he can and will be able to take care of the family/house - but his actions don’t prove it to me.
It’s a constant battle … I’ll keep battling until I’m grey and wrinkly by the looks of it. But I could really do without the stress.

This is definitely true!!

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Oof. This hits me right in the feels. That can be a tough spot for a spouse to be in.

Please don’t think I’m talking or thinking down about your husband. Everyone has their faults and issues and most certainly I have my own areas of fault.

But fortunately he has a great spouse and so do I :wink: Ideally one half will help support in areas the other is less naturally gifted in and vice versa.

Fortunately sometimes the ‘click’ happens and you get the gift of realizing where you’ve been messing up. It can be challenging but I’m always thankful for those moments. Though too often it happens much farther down the road than it should.

Wish you, and really all the couples here, the very best :slight_smile:

PART I - Answering the Thread Question

I dunno. I personally think it’s absolutely not porn because it’s not visual.

Porn (short for pornography) definition: “Printed or visual material containing the explicit description or display of sexual organs or activity, intended to stimulate erotic rather than aesthetic or emotional feelings.”

I think if anything it falls more in the category of Erotica: “literature or art intended to arouse sexual desire.” I think audio could potentially fall under ‘art’.

The key is the stimulation or arousal of sexual desires. I think if you’re using it like you would porn then it’s the same intent with the same effect as porn. Even though it wears a different ‘hat’, so to speak, it’s the same concept.

Gonna be that “unpopular yet well intended” guy for a minute. I disagree with the suggestion of asking OH to send you sexy pics of herself. Even though it’s OH, it’s still porn and still activating the mental and emotional stimulation that comes from viewing “non-OH” porn. It might be something your brain uses to keep an attachment to porn while operating under the disguise of “being ok because it’s OH”.

This might be an extreme example, but think of it this way: If your thing was alcohol or drugs, would it be ok if you drank or did drugs because OH gave them to you?

Now I think sexy OH pics could possibly be healthy later on down the road, if you get to the point where your mind won’t try to use sexy OH pictures as a stepping stone back to porn. Again I recognize these last few paragraphs are stronger and a bit more extreme language. Of course, you know yourself better than me. Just my thoughts :wink:

PART II - Finale

Since I’m here answering this particular question, I decided to scrap the reply in the original thread and put it here in the lounge where it probably most accurately belongs.

A few things have been happening in real life behind the scenes with me. Also things have happened here on the forums that have slowly chipped away at the justifications I’ve been using to even be here on the forums at all.

My confession: Since the age of maybe 18 (if I have to put a number on it) I’ve been addicted to porn (this is challenging to say). The longest I ever went without looking was maybe 8 months. I forget what brought me back. Spicy scene in a movie maybe? That started ‘the machine’. Then the familiar desire that I hadn’t experienced in months returned and I started doing stupid searches online that weren’t “porn”, but naughty. Then porn started slipping in with the search results. Then full blown back into it.

I’ve been clean now for 3-4 weeks maybe. I say clean because I know that I’ve been using the LH forums as a subsittute for porn. Now there certainly isn’t anything adult as far as official “porn” goes, but simply talking about desires, kinks, and fantasies was enough to fill the gap that stopping porn use had left behind.

Plus, the forums have all the features I could ever want to justify my being here: No adult pics/vids, no flirting, no private messages or 1-on-1 chat. I could get my ‘fix’ and tell myself it was ok because in all actuality I wasn’t looking at porn. I wasn’t even looking at the user-uploaded lingerie threads. Yay me right? :man_facepalming:

But the amount of time I spend online, and realizing that I was using the forums in the same way I used porn, (distraction from real life stress) eventually was made clear to me though a slow chipping away at my excuses.

One person asked me if my OH knew about my account here (OH does not know). And then, unbeknownst to her, @Goth_Girl had mentioned things here and here that really hit me in a way that made it impossible to believe my own justifications any longer.

Even though it wasn’t intended for me, I want to thank you @Goth_Girl. I appreciate what you did in those two posts. I will be checking out https://www.yourbrainonporn.com/ and https://nofap.com/. I already have been to both sites but I really want to dig into them.

I would also like to thank you @Starscream86. You are seriously brave to login and admit where you are and ask for suggestions. Saying you have/had a porn addiction is a humbling thing and I tip my hat to you.

OH and I have been having relationship struggles over the last couple years. She personally feels porn is infidelity. I was willing to stop but then got wrapped up in it again after that 8-month porn-free stint.

I suck at lying and I also don’t like to lie even if I was good at it. So I told OH about my slip, err bad choice, of looking again. That was about it for her. Kinda figured she’d forgive me after a few days but the days turned to weeks and months and it’s been a couple years now.

Out of bitterness I decided if she doesn’t want to engage sexually that I was at least going to have porn. Super mature right? :man_facepalming: Though I didn’t tell that to OH of course. And I most certainly do not browse in front of her but that was my mind’s attitude.

Last year I wanted to reengage my/our marriage so I stopped porn again for all of November and December. Poor communication on my end with her about that so OH didn’t really get what I was trying to do.

Nevertheless she still had no change in attitute toward me and she shut me out so I did what failures do best and made bad decisions again. The past few months I’ve made a legit effort of restoring things yet again and they have actually gotten better than they have been in the last couple years.

Even once we started getting very sexual on the couch. She actually let me place my hands on her various womanly parts which hadn’t happened in a good two years. I thought we had resolved everything and were about to head upstairs to finally have some amazing husband/wife time. I was wrong. She pumped the brakes. We talked and SOMEHOW had miscommunication issues that led to a fight and antother poor decision making process.

As I’m currently about 3-4 weeks clean, I’m realizing (or accepting rather) that the forums aren’t right for me. At least not at this point in time. I’m REALLY trying to be better and not giving up every time there’s a hiccup on my path to marital bliss.

It’s really just me being weak and immature. I accept that as where I am, but not where I want to allow myself to remain. Not anymore. My wife needs me to man up and be a real husband to her. To be the husband she deserves.

It is challenging, when you choose to live in defeat and failure, to get yourself out of it. I’m thankful to you all for that help, even though much was passively obtained. So with that I want to say a legitimate thank you to everyone for everything. Fun times, learning, laughs, and the opportunity to take some of the few things I think I know, and offer suggestions to others who are also going through tough times.

There are so many people I’m thankful for here but I want to give a shout out to just a few specifically. If I don’t list your name, please do not take it personal. I’m firstly human and also it’s late for me :wink:

For being especially friendly, fun, helpful, and a delight to engage with on the forums: @Ian_Chimp, @Kitty-Cat01, @Littleblondechick, @Cupc8kes, and @Mint-Monster.

For these two, every time I saw their profile pic on a post I knew I was going to both enjoy and be jealous of whatever text followed their icon: @rockstar and @Dirty-Wife

For these wonderful and amazing people, who have recently experienced a difficult time, I humbly encourage you to hang in there. It’s tough but you have what it takes to see it through and you’ll be a shining example to the rest of us as you do! Some have decisions to make, some have fought most of the battle and are healing, some are still in the battle. Regardless of where you are, you got this! You’re stronger than you think and you will get through it! I wish you the best! Specifically, @Justthe2ofus2007, @StarKitty79, @Kitty-Cat01, @AJSTAR.

To anyone I offended, and if it wasn’t clear that I wish I hadn’t, I’m truly sincerely sorry. I have no bitterness against anyone. Hoping I can leave on a fresh slate.

After this post I’m sending the email to request removal of my forum account. Thanks again @Goth_Girl, @Kitty-Cat01, and @Starscream86. Without having heard your personal stories about your dealings with porn, I wouldn’t be making this personally smart decision to move forward to where I need to be.

For the record, @Lovehoney_Brenna, the LH forums are phenomenal! Nothing bad to say. Only I do wish you’d get more “likes” in your first two weeks of online activity. Seemed that almost every time I was clicking ‘hearts’ I was getting “low on likes” messages :wink:

Wish everyone the best.

Sincerely,
justanotherkinkystraightguy

Edit: Sorry @Lovehoney_Brenna. Thanks for the number change. My sincere apologies.

Edit2: Finally finished grammar and spelling corrections. ugh

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Thanks @Goth_Girl. And this is my last post (for this period in time anyway). Only saw it becuse I’m slow at touching up my posts. Especially when they’re longer :slight_smile:

We’ll miss you but I totally get where you’re coming from. I hope things go well for you and your marriage grows and strengthens :smiling_face_with_three_hearts:

Maybe you could tell your partner about the site, and join up again together?

Just have a break @anon8189768 you don’t need to delete your account.

There’s always someone here if you need to have a friendly chat or vent.

That must of been hard to right, but I think it’s amazing that you’re acknowledging that and doing what’s right for you, we’re always here. I really hope your marriage strengthens. All the best :kissing_heart:

Just read that long post @anon8189768. Well done for realising and admitting that, and good luck with your struggle. I feel your thoughts are right, and although I’ll miss your well thought out posts, I think you’ve made the right decision. Take care my friend xx

Mrs Chimp got a freebie fitness watch thing with her last phone a while back. I once wore it while eating an entire box of doughnuts to myself. It said I’d burnt 48 calories. I was very pleased. :slightly_smiling_face:

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Some other ones:

The Piss Glossary

To take a piss To urinate
To take the piss To mock. Can be friendly, can also be aggressive. Watch for tone, and level of friendship.
Also, to take advantage excessively
“Are you taking the piss?!” / “Is this a piss-take?!” See above. Also an exclamation of disbelief
To ‘rip the piss’ out of someone /something To take the piss mercilessly
Pissing it down Raining heavily
Pissing in the wind Wasting one’s time attempting the impossible
Piss-sticks General exclamation. Similar to ‘Crikey!’
Pissing Hell! Stronger exclamation. Similar to “Chuffing Nora!”
Pissing about Mucking around
Piss artist Drunkard. Or someone who pisses about
Pisshole Urethral opening. Eg. “That piss was so hot. It really burnt my pisshole!”
Pisser Lavatory/urinal (alt. ‘shitter’)
Pisspot Miserable person. Also a pot that you can piss in
“I ain’t got a pot to piss in” Impoverished.
Piss poor Very bad quality. Can also mean impoverished
Pissed Intoxicated
Piss up An occasion when a lot of alcohol is drunk
On the piss A bout of extended alcohol consumption
Pisshead Antisocial habitual drinker
Can of Piss Useless person. Or cheap lager
Pissed off Annoyed, irked
Piss off! “Go away” or “Shut up”
Pissy Ill-tempered, sour.
Bucket of piss Mood killer. Like a wet blanket, but with a sloshing bucket of piss (though in some circles this is considered a jolly good Wednesday :slightly_smiling_face:)
To piss on someone’s cornflakes (or chips) To ruin someone’s exuberance/excitement.
Pissflaps Labia
Piss bottle Bottle for pissing in when the toilet is just too far
Lanky streak of piss Derogatory. Very tall and thin person.
Pissant A contemptible person or thing
Piss pad Disposable absorbant incontinence towel
Piss wet-through Drenched, soaking
Piss stain Insult. Worthless twat
“Eyes like piss holes in the snow” Tired, sunken eyes. Look like shit. Esp. From getting pissed
Piss your pants /piss yourself Find something hilarious. Or be very scared. Or physically urinate in your underwear
“Don’t piss your pants/yourself” “Don’t freak out/be scared”
“All piss and vinegar” Riled up, aggressive (though I thought it meant ‘full of spite’. We’re all learning something here :slightly_smiling_face:)
“They’re full of piss and air” Flaky, unreliable
“Wouldn’t piss on them if they were on fire” To have a strong dislike for someone
“That makes my piss fizz!!/That really boils my piss!!” “That makes me very angry!”
“Don’t piss on my face and tell me it’s raining” “Don’t pretend that your behaviour towards me is something less than it is”
To piss your money away Squander your money on frivolities
Piss all over Defeat with ease
Piece of piss Very easy
Pièce de rÊsistance The stand-out feature/element. Not actually piss related.

I’m sure there’s more. Shout out and I’ll add them in. :+1::slightly_smiling_face:

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I thought the topics were going to get deleted, so asked for the posts to be moved here. Turns out @anon8189768 went the ‘anonymise’ route instead, so they would have been safe anyhoo. :slightly_smiling_face:

(and I’ve added your suggestion to the list :+1:)

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I found one I’d never heard of until today!

AUSTRALIAN
alcoholic drink, especially beer.

“we’ll need 70 cans of piss for the trip”

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